[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs

Thu Apr 6 16:39:04 EDT 2023

Hello from Vancouver

On the utility of identification schemes for digital earth science data: An assessment and recommendations.

Earth Science Informatics, 4(3), 139-160. doi:10.1007/s12145-011-0083-6

has been cited 51 times in Scopus and 25 times in the Web of Science.

I am very interested in this upcoming meeting. I market a dataset tracking service to researchers in the earth sciences here at UBC.  I use a lot of techniques found in

https://www.gbif.org/literature-tracking

So far the level of interest has been underwhelming to say the least. Do some researchers view  journal articles as proxies for their datasets?  Any insights or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Have a good Easter.

Back to lurking.

Kevin

Kevin Lindstrom  MLIS

Librarian for Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences; Chemistry; Physics and Astronomy; Chemical and Biological Engineering; Electrical and Computer Engineering; Materials Engineering; Mining Engineering
Woodward Library
The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus | Musqueam Traditional Territory
2198 Health Sciences Mall | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z3 Canada
kevin.lindstrom at ubc.ca<mailto:kevin.lindstrom at ubc.ca> Twitter: https://twitter.com/KevinUBC
Mastodon: @KevinUBCSciEngLibrarian at mas.to
https://woodward.library.ubc.ca<https://woodward.library.ubc.ca/><https://woodward.library.ubc.ca/>
ROR: https://ror.org/03rmrcq20
________________________________
From: Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of Ruth Duerr via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 1:23:55 PM
To: Diana
Cc: esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org
Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs

[CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]
I’d just like to remind everyone on work done by ESIP on this topic a decade ago.  See the open access article at https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12145-011-0083-6

Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Diana via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

Good Afternoon, ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster,

This is a friendly reminder that our monthly meeting is scheduled for next week (April 13) at 4:00 ET.  As the new shepherd of the group, I would like to suggest that we focus (for a while) on Persistent identifier systems as they will be an important concept in Artifact Citation going forward. I will bring what I have learned and hope to hear what you have learned and what you think still needs to be considered so that every research artifact can be properly cited!

Please use the link below.

I look forward to chatting!
Diana Ma

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81184515398?pwd=NXF0Ylg2SnBZNHp0SWhyYzFvanlQUT09

________________________________
From: Matt Jones <jones at nceas.ucsb.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:37 PM
To: Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu>
Cc: Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>; esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs

Diana,

Does the LC Standard Identifiers vocabulary draw from the identifiers.org<http://identifiers.org> resolution service? We find their registry to be quite comprehensive and a machine readable source for our federated data systems, and it is continuously updated as new RRIDs and other identifier types get created. Here's the registry of identifier types: https://registry.identifiers.org/registry The science-on-schema.org<http://science-on-schema.org> group decided to recommend the use of the identifiers.org<http://identifiers.org> vocabulary as the source for standard URLs for identifier schemes: https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org/blob/master/guides/Dataset.md#identifier

I'd be interested in the ESIP session as well.

Matt

Matthew B. Jones
ORCID: 0000-0003-0077-4738<https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0077-4738>
Director of Informatics R&D, National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis<http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ecoinfo>
PI, NSF Arctic Data Center<https://arcticdata.io/>
Director, DataONE<https://dataone.org/> program
University of California Santa Barbara

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 8:35 AM Matthew Mayernik via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
Thanks Diana, I would be happy to have you involved as we put together our session.  It probably won't be until later in April, but I can loop you in as we get some ideas together,

Best,
Matt

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:58 AM Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com<mailto:diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>> wrote:
Matthew,

I would be very interested in working together on a session for the Summer ESIP meeting. Please let me know how I can help!

Recently, I have been focusing on persistent identifier systems. There are many. The Library of Congress maintains a list Standard Identifiers - LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and Vocabularies | Library of Congress (loc.gov)<https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>. It was last updated in 2020 and does not contain all of the systems relevant to science. I was thinking of suggesting a review of these systems a the upcoming meeting of the Research Artifact Citation group. It would be useful to identify where there is duplication and where there are holes.

Dan, As a technologist, I understand the difficulty of developing a persistent identifier system for software. I need to catch up on the resources you shared. Thank you for providing them!

Best
Diana

Standard Identifiers - LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and Vocabularies | Library of Congress<https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>
The Linked Data Service provides access to commonly found standards and vocabularies promulgated by the Library of Congress. This includes data values and the controlled vocabularies that house them. Datasets available include LCSH, BIBFRAME, LC Name Authorities, LC Classification, MARC codes, PREMIS vocabularies, ISO language codes, and more.
id.loc.gov<http://id.loc.gov>

________________________________
From: Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu<mailto:mayernik at ucar.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 4:44 PM
To: Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com<mailto:diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>>
Cc: esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>>
Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs

Hi Diana, all,
I am co-PI of a recent NSF Research Coordination Network (RCN) grant focused on PIDs for facilities and instruments. We are still in early phases, but are planning to dig into the benefits and drawbacks of using RRIDs vs DOIs for instruments and facilities. Anita B. is on our project's advisory group. We were already planning to organize a session on this topic for the summer ESIP meeting, so if others are interested, I'd be happy to talk more and work together on a session.

Here is our project web site: https://ncar.github.io/FAIR-Facilities-Instruments/

Best,
Matt

Matthew Mayernik
Project Scientist & Research Data Services Specialist
NCAR Library
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR)
Boulder, CO
mayernik at ucar.edu<mailto:mayernik at ucar.edu>

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 11:57 AM Daniel Katz via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
I've had lots of discussions with Anita B. (from SciCrunch<https://www.scicrunch.com>, which manages RRIDs) about them. We've had fairly strong disagreements about the role of RRIDs for software, but mostly come to the agreement that they are ok to use for software packages (not versions but overall concepts - all versions) in the life sciences.

Other disciplines have other PIDs that they use for software, which is confusing and difficult.

This is unlike data, where DOIs have become standard.

For more on repository and registry practices related to software, see https://scicodes.net/ and https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.13117

Dan

On Mar 28, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Diana via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am wondering if this group has ever discussed RRIDs? In my brief review, the system appears to target the life sciences, but may be able to address the repository question that we have discussed(?)

 Warm regards
Diana

URL:
giac058.pdf (silverchair.com)<https://watermark.silverchair.com/giac058.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAuswggLnBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggLYMIIC1AIBADCCAs0GCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMTjlF90wzqrpBge0yAgEQgIICnjN2vCMlzO71FV8ODdyPuQ0uUxumbJxzh9o2EiLs4WiVxdCM7UnravZ865sTy4TQjPB2YepyGxkRdLN-5CbTfdMguXTV7GMxqJya_xey2g1LJqWsHft4ZJKep7jQq4gfFmwAXEns_i_Qb_unSCeU7ane5QfSPXbHf9wDwcvot_jeVv-D9K1QBlTQelqShSfHJvk5VLzIBVtaC0IodphwUEoADzQtz0gh8i_VoiA7-a-Zx7pktH03va7RbW88SfSHfCJ3auz594soDa37XJO1cLpEDpkO4JgSG6KQQCtps93PnyjTQdHNNHTBoc3lnCH4dVTYacN3zG47MfQAvJQz5PT6sRxBPAo200RB2cO75RXcOWjMCbVyBY9-7AfTuT7-mmHdivRblvn6xZveCeVEF9mzVAJU1agN5aV433riACcM1e4AoxubSnKt9nZt8g7krCcEJccJhcl3E37unbVzMPYeiTL_O-WHb0Ifaipmj6KNAFkl7rubGY-rvIuaND9sq65_1fwngfDI9Qmhbt4asMMcjL5Zd8DeAf1PnFI6B6mbgtYncqMtWf2ZYURKfyToPFm1v67OlCJfhScU9xTHNTKFBWVTXhytuV0LhUvqKWgUw5X1Dmuins3YTPxUTfpUqppdmMNWiSHVKIdZLr0GtaMDFTjSkwCQfjk9CLZVgm1PjbMMlL8bTbwaSzAkpDtOLEcB56GPVj0HoG2FHyRtuzEJy4yp3bdj7j_ThqQ97Qp47bclSyVQTuv6eHiHVLdhQNqgOJ8JSJSkWpB9_IVEge0V-6rpccIsNlXnkmiGoxXyqGwCaig1FXFf4vQhDFIfO7YJrL_kYKvUgCrJuoCl678fchn2j7Teojig27QBOCvqX4dpKjzvapbFjiG0JTc>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
EXERPT:
RIDs are not for citing ideas or data since well-developed cita tion systems already exist for that. Instead, RRID numbers are created by repositories that distribute the research resource, such as Addgene for plasmids, or the National Xenopus Resource for transgenic frogs.
<giac058.pdf>
_______________________________________________
Esip-citationguidelines mailing list
To start a new topic: Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
To unsubscribe and manage prefs: https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines

--
Daniel S. Katz
Chief Scientist, NCSA
Research Associate Professor, CS
Research Associate Professor, ECE
Research Associate Professor, iSchool
University of Illinois
(217) 244-8000
d.katz at ieee.org<mailto:d.katz at ieee.org> or dskatz at illinois.edu<mailto:dskatz at illinois.edu>
https://danielskatz.org

_______________________________________________
Esip-citationguidelines mailing list
To start a new topic: Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
To unsubscribe and manage prefs: https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines

_______________________________________________
Esip-citationguidelines mailing list
To start a new topic: Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
To unsubscribe and manage prefs: https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines

_______________________________________________
Esip-citationguidelines mailing list
To start a new topic: Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org
To unsubscribe and manage prefs: https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.esipfed.org/pipermail/esip-citationguidelines/attachments/20230406/59e01587/attachment-0001.htm>