<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span></span><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Dr. Ted Habermann</span><br style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri;" class=""><a href="http://tedhabermann.com" style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri;" class="">Metadata Game Changer</a><div style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">ROR: <a href="https://ror.org/05bp8ka05" class="">https://ror.org/05bp8ka05</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ORCID: </span><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">0000-0003-3585-6733</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:ted@tedhabermann.com" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a></div>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 14, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Lindstrom, Kevin via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Hello everyone</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">This is such a timely topic. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I am currently investigating the research data activities of one of my departments here at UBC. I've compiled a spreadsheet for all members of the department including </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">graduate students, research associates, faculty and postdocs. The spreadsheet includes ORCIDs, research groups, advisors, and so on.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I've been doing creators.name searching on datacite and all in all it has been both a frustrating and illuminating exercise. The continuum ranges from datasets that do not cite any of the researchers that published the paper (dataset was uploaded by a lab technician) to all authors who published the journal article are also listed as creators of the dataset. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">ORCIDs have not been particularly useful so far. If any of you know how to search datacite for ORCID ids, please let me know.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Acknowledging the CrediT Taxonomy, it will be interesting to learn how researchers decide to assign authorship to datasets.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Lurking in the background but following this discussion with great interest.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">-Kevin</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="x_Signature" class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="font-family: Tahoma; 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font-size: 13px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 33, 69); font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial; line-height: 14px;" class="">ROR: <a href="https://ror.org/03rmrcq20" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPNoLP">https://ror.org/03rmrcq20</a></span></div></div></div></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 970.1875px;" class=""><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org" class="">esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>> on behalf of Deb Agarwal via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May 13, 2021 5:29:50 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today</font><div class=""> </div></div></div><font size="2" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><div class="PlainText">[CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]<br class=""><br class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">I only made part of the meeting and stayed quiet but I am excited to see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">us working on this topic. I am happy to help in any way I can.<br class=""><br class="">Deb<br class=""><br class="">On 5/13/21 2:52 PM, Mark Parsons via Esip-citationguidelines wrote:<br class="">> Hi all,<br class="">><br class="">> First off, let me thank and congratulate Madison Langseth from USGS for stepping up to co-chair the group. Madison has been a key leader in the group the last couple years. Also, unlike me, Madison is actually responsible for data which needs to be appropriately credited. Yay Madison!<br class="">><br class="">> In today’s meeting we got increasingly focussed. Not only are we focussing on credit for data, we are going to start developing guidelines for how to determine “authorship” or citation-level credit for data — an enhancement or codicil to the current guidelines if you will.<br class="">><br class="">> See the notes here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing</a><br class="">><br class="">> cheers,<br class="">><br class="">> -m.<br class="">><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Esip-citationguidelines mailing list<br class="">> To start a new topic: <a href="mailto:Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" class="">Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a><br class="">> To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines" class="">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines</a><br class="">><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Thanks, Deb<br class="">Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory<br class="">URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://dst.lbl.gov/" class="">http://dst.lbl.gov</a><br class=""><a href="mailto:daagarwal@lbl.gov" class="">e-mail: daagarwal@lbl.gov</a><br class="">phone: +1 (510)486-7078<br class="">pronoun: she/her<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Esip-citationguidelines mailing list<br class="">To start a new topic: Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org<br class="">To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines" class="">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines</a><br class=""></div></span></font></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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