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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Wow- those are two comprehensive resources you have pointed us to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://www.sparontologies.net/ontologies/scoro">SPAR ontologies</a> which, much to my embarrassment, I have never heard of. Do you have any background on this group?<span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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It would be very useful to some work going on in ARDC at the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Take care<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Lesley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of Ted Habermann via Esip-citationguidelines
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<b>Reply to: </b>Ted Habermann <tedhabermann@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, 15 May 2021 at 9:22 am<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some time ago I spent some time working on a credit crosswalk (attached) that I thought might be interesting for this group (attached). I concluded that the most interesting work done in this area was by <a href="https://sparontologies.github.io/scoro/current/scoro.html">Dave
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</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">ORCID: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">0000-0003-3585-6733</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 14, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Lindstrom, Kevin via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I've been doing creators.name searching on datacite and all in all it has been both a frustrating and illuminating exercise. The continuum ranges from datasets that do not cite any of the researchers that
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org">esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>> on behalf of Deb Agarwal via Esip-citationguidelines
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today<span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Hi all,<br>
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I only made part of the meeting and stayed quiet but I am excited to see<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Deb<br>
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On 5/13/21 2:52 PM, Mark Parsons via Esip-citationguidelines wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
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> First off, let me thank and congratulate Madison Langseth from USGS for stepping up to co-chair the group. Madison has been a key leader in the group the last couple years. Also, unlike me, Madison is actually responsible for data which needs to be appropriately
credited. Yay Madison!<br>
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> In today’s meeting we got increasingly focussed. Not only are we focussing on credit for data, we are going to start developing guidelines for how to determine “authorship” or citation-level credit for data — an enhancement or codicil to the current guidelines
if you will.<br>
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> See the notes here:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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