<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Lesley,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dave and Silvio are very well known in the citation world… They run the Open Citation project (<a href="https://opencitations.net/" class="">https://opencitations.net/</a>)…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe I will put his crosswalk on Zenodo… and get a DOI… It still needs some work...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ted<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 15, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Lesley Wyborn <<a href="mailto:lesley.wyborn@anu.edu.au" class="">lesley.wyborn@anu.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Hi Ted<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Wow- those are two comprehensive resources you have pointed us to.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">How widely used is this<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://sparontologies.github.io/scoro/current/scoro.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dave Shotton and Silvio Peroni</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ontology. I see it comes from the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.sparontologies.net/ontologies/scoro" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">SPAR ontologies</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>which, much to my embarrassment, I have never heard of. Do you have any background on this group?<span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ol><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><ol start="2" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">With your attachment on the Contributor Roles Crosswalk - do you intend making this more widely (and persistently!) available? It would be very useful to some work going on in ARDC at the moment.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ol><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Take care<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Lesley<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>> on behalf of Ted Habermann via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Reply to:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ted Habermann <<a href="mailto:tedhabermann@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">tedhabermann@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Saturday, 15 May 2021 at 9:22 am<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello all,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Some time ago I spent some time working on a credit crosswalk (attached) that I thought might be interesting for this group (attached). I concluded that the most interesting work done in this area was by <a href="https://sparontologies.github.io/scoro/current/scoro.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Dave Shotton and Silvio Peroni</a>. Unfortunately, it was also the most complex and my effort was overcome by other events…<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">IMHO, the CRediT work is interesting but, like the ISO Topic Category, it is so high-level that it may only be useful for the most granular descriptions of a vast variety of roles.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Stay safe,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ted<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D74A38.C40A6AC0"><image001.png></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Dr. Ted Habermann<br class=""></span><a href="http://tedhabermann.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Metadata Game Changer</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">ROR: <a href="https://ror.org/05bp8ka05" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://ror.org/05bp8ka05</a><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">ORCID: </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">0000-0003-3585-6733</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:ted@tedhabermann.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On May 14, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Lindstrom, Kevin via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class=""><div id="x_x_divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class="">Hello everyone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">This is such a timely topic. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I am currently investigating the research data activities of one of my departments here at UBC. I've compiled a spreadsheet for all members of the department including <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">graduate students, research associates, faculty and postdocs. The spreadsheet includes ORCIDs, research groups, advisors, and so on.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I've been doing creators.name searching on datacite and all in all it has been both a frustrating and illuminating exercise. The continuum ranges from datasets that do not cite any of the researchers that published the paper (dataset was uploaded by a lab technician) to all authors who published the journal article are also listed as creators of the dataset. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">ORCIDs have not been particularly useful so far. If any of you know how to search datacite for ORCID ids, please let me know.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Acknowledging the CrediT Taxonomy, it will be interesting to learn how researchers decide to assign authorship to datasets.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Lurking in the background but following this discussion with great interest.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">-Kevin<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div id="x_x_Signature" class=""><div id="x_x_divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 33, 69);" class="">Kevin Lindstrom</span></strong><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 33, 69);" class=""> MLIS<br class="">Librarian for Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences; Chemistry; Physics and Astronomy; Chemical and Biological Engineering; Electrical and Computer Engineering; Materials Engineering; Mining Engineering<br class="">Woodward Library<br class="">The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus | Musqueam Traditional Territory<br class="">2198 Health Sciences Mall | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z3 Canada<br class=""><a href="mailto:kevin.lindstrom@ubc.ca" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 33, 69);" class="">kevin.lindstrom@ubc.ca</span></a> Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinUBC" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://twitter.com/KevinUBC</a><br class=""><a href="https://woodward.library.ubc.ca/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 33, 69);" class="">https://woodward.library.ubc.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 33, 69);" class="">ROR: <a href="https://ror.org/03rmrcq20" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://ror.org/03rmrcq20</a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><hr size="2" width="970" align="center" style="width: 727.65pt;" class=""></span></div><div id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>> on behalf of Deb Agarwal via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May 13, 2021 5:29:50 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">[CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]<br class=""><br class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">I only made part of the meeting and stayed quiet but I am excited to see<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">us working on this topic. I am happy to help in any way I can.<br class=""><br class="">Deb<br class=""><br class="">On 5/13/21 2:52 PM, Mark Parsons via Esip-citationguidelines wrote:<br class="">> Hi all,<br class="">><br class="">> First off, let me thank and congratulate Madison Langseth from USGS for stepping up to co-chair the group. Madison has been a key leader in the group the last couple years. Also, unlike me, Madison is actually responsible for data which needs to be appropriately credited. Yay Madison!<br class="">><br class="">> In today’s meeting we got increasingly focussed. Not only are we focussing on credit for data, we are going to start developing guidelines for how to determine “authorship” or citation-level credit for data — an enhancement or codicil to the current guidelines if you will.<br class="">><br class="">> See the notes here:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing</a><br class="">><br class="">> cheers,<br class="">><br class="">> -m.<br class="">><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Esip-citationguidelines mailing list<br class="">> To start a new topic:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a><br class="">> To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines</a><br class="">><br class="">--<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Thanks, Deb<br class="">Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory<br class="">URL:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://dst.lbl.gov/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://dst.lbl.gov</a><br class=""><a href="mailto:daagarwal@lbl.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">e-mail: daagarwal@lbl.gov</a><br class="">phone: +1 (510)486-7078<br class="">pronoun: she/her<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Esip-citationguidelines mailing list<br class="">To start a new topic:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a><br class="">To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: CenturyGothic, serif;" class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Esip-citationguidelines mailing list<br class="">To start a new topic:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: CenturyGothic, serif;" class="">Esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: CenturyGothic, serif;" class=""><br class="">To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: CenturyGothic, serif;" class="">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div><span id="cid:BB65EA6F8C06D64DA2CA15DD7C5CEB1D@AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM"><Contributor Roles Crosswalk[2].pdf></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>