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<p>Thanks Shelly, Chris, Ted, and ESIP </p>
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<p>I looked at Datacite Commons some time ago and then totally forgot about it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for reminding me!</p>
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<b>To:</b> Christopher Erdmann; Lindstrom, Kevin; esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kevin, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">DataCite has built another tool – DataCite Commons - that includes ORCID, DOI (of any research object in English Language), and Institution ID (ROR).
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris gave you the search within DataCite Search using his ORCID. Here is the same search in DataCite Commons – also with Chris’ ORCID as an example.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://commons.datacite.org/orcid.org/0000-0003-2554-180X">https://commons.datacite.org/orcid.org/0000-0003-2554-180X</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This tool is dependent on the use of PIDs in publications and other research objects. So, gaps still exist where there is a mention, but no PID.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of Christopher Erdmann via Esip-citationguidelines
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Christopher Erdmann <CErdmann@agu.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:38 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Lindstrom, Kevin" <kevin.lindstrom@ubc.ca>, "esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" <esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kevin,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here is a sample ORCID search on DataCite:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://search.datacite.org/works?query=+creators.nameIdentifiers.nameIdentifier%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0003-2554-180X%22&page=2">https://search.datacite.org/works?query=+creators.nameIdentifiers.nameIdentifier%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0003-2554-180X%22&page=2</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">creators.nameIdentifiers.nameIdentifier:”<a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0003-2554-180X">https://orcid.org/0000-0003-2554-180X</a>”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hope this is what you were asking for? Another place to ask might be
<a href="https://www.pidforum.org/">The PID Forum - The PID Forum</a>?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines-bounces@lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of "Lindstrom, Kevin via Esip-citationguidelines"
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<b>Reply-To: </b>"Lindstrom, Kevin" <kevin.lindstrom@ubc.ca><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:36 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" <esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Esip-citationguidelines] Welcome Madison! And notes from today</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hello everyone</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This is such a timely topic. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I am currently investigating the research data activities of one of my departments here at UBC. I've compiled a spreadsheet for all members of the department including </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">graduate students, research associates, faculty and postdocs. The spreadsheet includes ORCIDs, research groups, advisors, and so on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I've been doing creators.name searching on datacite and all in all it has been both a frustrating and illuminating exercise. The continuum ranges from datasets that do not cite any of the researchers that published
the paper (dataset was uploaded by a lab technician) to all authors who published the journal article are also listed as creators of the dataset. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ORCIDs have not been particularly useful so far. If any of you know how to search datacite for ORCID ids, please let me know.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Acknowledging the CrediT Taxonomy, it will be interesting to learn how researchers decide to assign authorship to datasets.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Lurking in the background but following this discussion with great interest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">-Kevin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002145">Kevin Lindstrom</span></strong><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002145"> MLIS<br>
Librarian for Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences; Chemistry; Physics and Astronomy; Chemical and Biological Engineering; Electrical and Computer Engineering; Materials Engineering; Mining Engineering<br>
Woodward Library<br>
The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus | Musqueam Traditional Territory<br>
2198 Health Sciences Mall | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z3 Canada<br>
<a href="mailto:kevin.lindstrom@ubc.ca"><span style="color:#002145">kevin.lindstrom@ubc.ca</span></a> Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinUBC">https://twitter.com/KevinUBC</a><br>
<a href="https://woodward.library.ubc.ca/"><span style="color:#002145">https://woodward.library.ubc.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002145">ROR: <a href="https://ror.org/03rmrcq20">https://ror.org/03rmrcq20</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">[CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]<br>
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Hi all,<br>
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I only made part of the meeting and stayed quiet but I am excited to see <br>
us working on this topic. I am happy to help in any way I can.<br>
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Deb<br>
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On 5/13/21 2:52 PM, Mark Parsons via Esip-citationguidelines wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> First off, let me thank and congratulate Madison Langseth from USGS for stepping up to co-chair the group. Madison has been a key leader in the group the last couple years. Also, unlike me, Madison is actually responsible for data which needs to be appropriately
credited. Yay Madison!<br>
><br>
> In today’s meeting we got increasingly focussed. Not only are we focussing on credit for data, we are going to start developing guidelines for how to determine “authorship” or citation-level credit for data — an enhancement or codicil to the current guidelines
if you will.<br>
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> See the notes here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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> cheers,<br>
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> -m.<br>
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Thanks, Deb<br>
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