[Esip-discovery] Following up on "search through generalized tools"

Sky Bristol sbristol at usgs.gov
Wed Jan 30 12:55:36 EST 2013


I'm going to have to check into the assertion that Wikipedia is blocking contributions from us gov types. I know USGS has contributed to our own information in various articles - whether that's official or not, I don't know.

One area that I did some experimentation a couple years ago and have been wanting to get back to is with freebase.com. That platform (now owned by Google) had a big vision from the start to create the "structured data of the world's information." One of the things they still have in play is an algorithm that structures the topics and facts from Wikipedia into its basic item structure. Way back when, I created usgsdata.freebase.com and started populating it with a number of our basic units of discoverable information and the connections between. We've come a long way since then in how we describe our various data and information resources in a catalog sense, and I think I have an idea on how we externalize the basic discoverable units into something like the freebase "fact" context. Our plan is to craft some type of API-level push as a "publication" of our resources for access through the freebase API, other apps using the freebase API, search indexes like Google's that are taking advantage of its structure, and other uses. I'm not sure how it will all play out, but it looks like freebase may play into where Google is going with the knowledge graph effort.

Has anyone else explored in this particular area?

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On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:00 AM, esip-discovery-request at lists.esipfed.org wrote:

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> From: Erin Robinson <erinrobinson at esipfed.org>
> Subject: Re: [Esip-discovery] a possible approach for incremental improvement of data search through generalized tools
> Date: January 29, 2013 10:43:38 AM MST
> To: "Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102)" <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov>
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> How do you know you'd be blocked? That seems like a strange policy. 
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> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102) <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov> wrote:
> So, one suggestion that might help this issue is if Wikipedia had more entries about our data and tools.  For instance, there is no page on Precipitation Data (describing sources, types, etc.).  There is only a stub entry for Giovanni.
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> Turns out, though, that Wikipedia does not want NASA employees like me contributing.  They would actually block me if I tried to edit from a NASA machine.  So this kind of thing would need to be a community/private citizen effort....
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> From: "Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102)" <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Esip-discovery] a possible approach for incremental improvement of data search through generalized tools
> Date: January 29, 2013 10:48:53 AM MST
> To: Erin Robinson <erinrobinson at esipfed.org>
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> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Erin Robinson wrote:
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>> How do you know you'd be blocked? That seems like a strange policy. 
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> This information comes from our NASA coordinator of social media. 
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>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102) <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov> wrote:
>> So, one suggestion that might help this issue is if Wikipedia had more entries about our data and tools.  For instance, there is no page on Precipitation Data (describing sources, types, etc.).  There is only a stub entry for Giovanni.
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>> Turns out, though, that Wikipedia does not want NASA employees like me contributing.  They would actually block me if I tried to edit from a NASA machine.  So this kind of thing would need to be a community/private citizen effort....
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>> Thoughts?
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