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Slide 9 presents "<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: normal;">relationship from Application to Dataset", however the article is not tied to application. My understanding is that the cluster
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: normal;">application --> dataset <--article[application+datasets] <--application</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: normal;">If the discovery covers any articles whether they use applications or not, e.g. users acquire dataset from the data center and use it for research
forgoing any existing applications then, as Robert said, we are looking into a database of citations that tie datasets with their various areas of study:</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: normal;">dataset <--> citation database <--> articles describing research areas, applications, datasets, etc.<br>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: normal;">Here, citation database contains structured information about datasets and their usage retrieved from the unstructured article text.<br>
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<div>Hi Chris and all,</div>
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<div>Looking at slide 9, where the application and the article are both linked to the dataset, I am wondering whether, from a discovery perspective, the article, in that diagram, might be replaced with a database of articles that cited the data for a particular
application. Accessing such a database of relevant articles would allow the potential user to identify the different ways in which the data were used for the application, enabling them to determine which use would be appropriate for their own purposes.
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<div dir="ltr">Robert R. Downs, PhD<br>
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Center for International Earth Science Information Network (CIESIN),<br>
The Earth Institute, Columbia University<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:45 AM Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-5860) via Esip-discovery <<a href="mailto:esip-discovery@lists.esipfed.org">esip-discovery@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono"">Yes, the point on “dataset citations” (vs…dataset identification?) is well taken. I myself vacillate back and forth. On the one hand, we need the identification of datasets to enable the basic discovery
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono"">OTOH, there are other potential benefits from this database of relationships, such as acknowledging the reuse of prior art (i.e., the input data products), enabling reproducibility and formal provenance
that nudge me over toward the citation camp. It might make for an interesting discussion…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">The fact that foragers (nice term) "Need better data citation practices in Applications” and the general need for "Automated Harvesting of Relationships" is certainly something the citation cluster would be interested
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">Mind, let’s be careful about the term ‘citation’ which generally means reference, credit, and access .It’s often necessary to be more explicit. Separating concerns and audiences is kinda the theme of our group.
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