<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a name="_GoBack"></a>Hi Siri Jodha,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thank you very much for attending <span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">yesterday's
OGC DQ domain working group meeting and appreciate your participation in
discussion. I will try to answer your questions which are in italic below and others
may chime in.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">1)<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">whether
it makes sense to expand the "quality" umbrella to include things
that don't pertain to the inherent attributes of the data itself.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Because there are more than
just inherent attributes of the data itself affect the overall quality of a
dataset. See more discussion under question 3). There is a whole section in the guidelines document on data and information attributes and dimensions.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">2)<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">What
is the benefit to the community of duplicating all the work that has gone into
defining features of a trustworthy digital repository?</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The work related to a trustworthy digital repository,
represented by CoreTrustSeal requirements, is primarily focusing on the
organizational capability and processes, not on individual datasets. The quality of all datasets
managed by a trustworthy repository is not always the same as it is not guaranteed
all of the datasets are produced, managed, and serviced the same way. Only way
users can know how is through accessing the information. The short answer is
that a trustworthy repository is not equal to a trustworthy dataset.</span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">3)<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Adding
services to a dataset doesn't necessarily improve its quality. How well the
quality of a dataset is conveyed in metadata is a feature of the metadata, not
the dataset.</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">You appear to only think of data quality such as data
accuracy, format, timeliness, completeness, etc. Services can impact numerous quality
attributes of a dataset, including discoverability – how well the dataset can
be found; accessibility – how well the data can be obtained; and usability –
how easy it is for data to be used. For the same quality attributes but from a
stewardship perspective, having comprehensive discovery metadata elements that
conform to ESIP Attribute Convention for Data Discovery metadata conventions will
better enable services in data discovery; capturing access protocols in
metadata or user guide will help users to understand how data can be accessed;
and documenting sensor or data product characteristics including accuracy, biases
and error sources will help scientists to understand how the data can be best
utilized in their own applications. All those do not change anything about the
value or structure of underlying data but certainly impact the service and
stewardship quality or maturity of the dataset. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hope it helps. We
are very close to producing a complete draft for community review – hopefully by
the middle of April and it’d be great to get your feedback – you are already
familiar with some of the background information captured in the call-to-action
statement paper. Additional information such as that on quality attributes and dimensions, assessment types, etc. will also be provided in the guidelines document.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Best regards,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">--- Peng</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 12:36 PM Siri Jodha Khalsa via Esip-infoquality <<a href="mailto:esip-infoquality@lists.esipfed.org">esip-infoquality@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>This graphic from the draft FAIR-DQI community guidelines was
presented in yesterday's OGC DQ domain working group meeting:</p>
<p><img src="cid:178619a9f7de116e5301" alt=""></p>
<p>which leads me to ask whether it makes sense to expand the
"quality" umbrella to include things that don't pertain to the
inherent attributes of the data itself. What is the benefit to the
community of duplicating all the work that has gone into defining
features of a trustworthy digital repository? Adding services to a
dataset doesn't necessarily improve its quality. How well the
quality of a dataset is conveyed in metadata is a feature of the
metadata, not the dataset.<br>
</p>
<p>Open to hearing other's opinion on this.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>SiriJodha<br>
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National Snow and Ice Data Center
University of Colorado
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