[Esip-preserve] Call for sessions - ESIP winter meeting

Fri Oct 12 12:33:06 EDT 2012

Hi Denise,

Let's see how many other people are interested in the topic.  If a few more chime in a session might be well worth it.

Ruth

On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Denise Hills <dhills at gsa.state.al.us> wrote:

> Ruth et al,
> 
> This is definitely something I would be interested in pursuing - do you (meaning the community) believe there would be enough interest to work up a session? We have a very large physical sample collection, as well as digital data related to those samples, and we are just beginning to address how to maintain these interrelated collections. Physical sample curation and preservation are certainly related to the overall theme of the meeting - without the physical data itself, we have less information about climate change.
> 
> What Bruce has mentioned (museums and collections closing due to lack of funding, lack of clarity of where these standards might fall, the digital vs physical data maintenance and preservation) are all of great concern. One issue we might explore is how to make sure the digital data about the physical specimens is at least maintained and preserved, even if we lose ultimate access to the physical data.
> 
> If there is enough interest, I can attempt to work up an abstract detailing what I mentioned above. Ruth, I would greatly value your input and advice on that! I don't know that I'm qualified to lead the session, but I'm willing to try - I'm all about diving right in to things!
> 
> --Denise
> 
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Ruth Ellen Duerr <rduerr at Colorado.EDU> wrote:
> 
>> Well, I am interested in best practices for managing collections that have a physical component, so would be interested if the scope of the session was broadened to include that.
>> 
>> - Ruth
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Kenneth S. Casey <Kenneth.Casey at noaa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> I should note that the NOAA Scientific Data Stewardship Program only last a couple of years, before turning into the NOAA Climate Data Record Program, which due to serious budget limitations has only been able to focus on building a handful of satellite-based climate data records.   
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Bruce Barkstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As I recall, there are smallish number of references on the Web
>>>> to physical specimen preservation standards and curation.
>>>> I did have a chance to get deep into the biological specimen
>>>> part of the Smithsonian Institution, where one problem we don't
>>>> usually encounter is tippling from the pure alcohol that's used
>>>> for preservation of various animals.  The other difficulty for 
>>>> preservation is the fact that museums and other collection
>>>> institutions close because of lack of funding.
>>>> 
>>>> If you get a copy of the Open Archive Information System
>>>> (OAIS) Reference Model, you'll find that this standard does
>>>> include physical objects in its UML diagrams.  It seems sensible
>>>> to separate the physical object preservation from the preservation
>>>> of digital data that the objects might produce.  For example on the
>>>> rock samples or rock cores, there's one kind of repository that
>>>> you'd need for the physical objects and another for the text strings
>>>> that would describe the stratigraphic terms of the classification,
>>>> as well as such entities as chemical composition, physical dimensions,
>>>> and the original location of the sample or core.  I suspect that these
>>>> data items fall under some kind of metadata standard for geological
>>>> materials, although I'm not sure exactly which groups would have
>>>> created them - maybe the American Geological Society or another
>>>> related professional organization.
>>>> 
>>>> Regardless of the technical details, welcome to the community.
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce R. Barkstrom
>>>> (current Agitator General or General Agitator)
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Denise Hills <dhills at gsa.state.al.us> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm relatively new to ESIP in general, and data preservation in particular, but it is definitely something that interests me. I would love to help work on a session (and maybe even take the lead, as long as I have support!). One thing I see missing from much of the data preservation discussion is how to handle physical samples.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe we have made great strides in developing models and standards for digital data preservation - some great examples include the National Geothermal Data System (which I have been involved with), the USGS National Geological and Geophysical Data Preservation Program (which our agency has been involved with), and NOAA's Scientific Data Stewardship Program. These programs all mention physical samples, but do not yet have a clear path (at least that I've seen - although like I said, I'm new to this!) for standards and protocols for physical sample preservation, or at least preservation of as much information as possible before the physical samples further degrade.
>>>> 
>>>> Would this be a topic worth pursuing at the Winter Meeting? What are other people's thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Denise Hills
>>>> Geological Survey of Alabama
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 9:47 PM, "Ramdeen, Sarah" <ramdeen at email.unc.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>  
>>>>> We were not able to have a telecon meeting this month, but we do have an action item to work on.  Abstracts for the winter session are due by Oct. 31st.  (See details below concerning the theme and the process for submitting an abstract).  As a committee, is there a specific session we would like to host at the January meeting?  Please respond to the list if you would like to 1) contribute an idea and 2) if you would be interested in working on the session and 3) if you would like to take lead on the session.  I can work with those interested to develop an abstract if needed.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>  
>>>>> Message from Erin:
>>>>>  
>>>>> The Winter Meeting theme is: "ESIP Advancing Earth Science Information: From Climate Assessment to Information to Action". Some initial text and goals of the meeting are on the wiki. http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Winter_2013_Meeting
>>>>>  
>>>>> During the month of October, please work with your collaboration areas to define sessions for this meeting. To submit a session abstract go to the ESIP Commons(commons.esipfed.org):
>>>>> 1.            Create an account or login
>>>>> 2.            Click Add Meeting Session in the grey bar at the top of the page.
>>>>> 3.            Select Winter Meeting 2013 for event
>>>>> 4.            Continue filling out the form. Disregard date, location - those will be added when sessions are scheduled.
>>>>> 5.            Save the session and you will be directed back to the completed page with a yellow box at the top.
>>>>> 6.            In a yellow box, click apply next to the submitted drop down.
>>>>> Please submit an abstract for every 90 min block you'd like to have. The deadline for session submission is Oct. 31.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sarah Ramdeen PhD Student
>>>>> School of Information and Library Science
>>>>> University of North Carolina
>>>>> ramdeen at email.unc.edu
>>>>> http://ramdeen.web.unc.edu/
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