<div dir="ltr"><div>Great questions Kevin I'm not familiar with how zenodo handles it's data submissions, unfortunately due to a lack of standards and many different ways of doing things data repositories like pangaea, zenodo and dryad all kind of do things their own way. Pangaea for example just makes new parameters based on the columns in submitted spreadsheets. From what I can tell Zenodo seems to do the same (not using controlled metadata, but rather just the column headers coming from the wild). <br><br></div><div>My understanding is that CF terms are a controlled vocabulary that is built to work within the netCDF file format which certain disciplines use for data exchange. But I don't think that CF terms have unique identifiers like by IRIs the way SWEET or OBO ontologies do, so I don't imagine there is a standardized way to use their terms (or terms from any vocab) with Zenodo, but I certainly can't speak for them so perhaps they would be the people to ask directly. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Speaking for BCODMO we are currently transitioning to a new standardized vocabulary (which I am helping to build) which is based on the NERC vocabulary P01, as well as OBO ontologies. It'll be a hybrid of the who where we use a model phrase similar to the NERC P01 model, but use individual terms, e.g. 'seawater' from Ontologies like ENVO. <br><br>I think the sad reality is that metadata in a global sense is just a messy wild west of many different repos and vocabs which are inconsistently misused and abused in any possible weird fashion. My advice, pick some vocabs that work for your discipline(s), improve them if you can and or convince others to allow their use in some sort of standardized way. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for the bleak pronouncement. <br></div><div>Kai<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:25 PM Lindstrom, Kevin via Esip-schema-dot-org <<a href="mailto:esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org">esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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