[Esip-semanticharmonization] Are people prepared for an ESIP Semantic Harmonization Cluster 2 hour group meeting in April

Anne Thessen annethessen at gmail.com
Thu Apr 4 10:18:00 EDT 2024 

I will be getting off a plane, but could potentially be there

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM Nancy Wiegand <wiegand at cs.wisc.edu> wrote:

> As of now, I'll be out of town April 17th, unfortunately.
> Nancy Wiegand
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gary Berg-Cross <gbergcross at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 1:27 PM
> *To:* Ruth Duerr <ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com>; Pier ​Buttigieg <
> pier.buttigieg at awi.de>; Pier ​Buttigieg <pbuttigi at mpi-bremen.de>; Kate
> Rose <kate.rose at noaa.gov>; Doug Fils <dfils at oceanleadership.org>; Nancy
> Wiegand <wiegand at cs.wisc.edu>; Megan Carter <megancarter at esipfed.org>;
> Carolina Berys-Gonzalez <cberysgonzalez at ucsd.edu>; Marshall Ma <
> max at uidaho.edu>; Adam Shepherd <ashepherd at whoi.edu>; Karen Stocks, PhD <
> kstocks at sdsc.edu>
> *Cc:* Brandon Whitehead <brandon.p.whitehead at gmail.com>;
> Esip-semanticharmonization <esip-semanticharmonization at lists.esipfed.org>;
> Anne Thessen <annethessen at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Are people prepared for an ESIP Semantic Harmonization Cluster
> 2 hour group meeting in April
>
> The next Semantic Harmonization meeting is  scheduled for April 17 @ 4:00
> PM - 6:00 PM EDT to again overlap with the SWEET meeting.
> A Question is whether we will have the right people to be able to discuss
> CMECS and harmonization with both SWEET and ENVO.
> To have a productive meeting we would need a course set of vocabulary
> items (Like Beach or sand  or habitat/Aquatic Setting areas like Estuarine
> System ) from CMECS  along with definitions and some idea about how they
> could align with  SWEETand ENVO.
> Having Kate and Pier available would be instrumental to a productive
> session.
> So we should know if they are available before using this session for
> CMECS harmonization...and if they have a start on a core vocabulary.
>
> Below is a small example illustrating Beach as an concept in ENVO and
> CMECS.
>
> surface landform
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_01001884__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcX1cWh1ag$>
> in  Envo
>
>    -
>
>    + beach
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00000091__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcV97M1FJA$> A
>    landform consisting of loose rock particles such as sand, gravel, shingle,
>    pebbles, cobble, or even shell fragments along the shoreline of a body of
>    water.
>    -
>
>    surface landform
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_01001884__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcX1cWh1ag$>
>
>
>    -
>
>    part of
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*BFO_0000050__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcUIFYyqUA$>
>     some shore
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00000304__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcXLYd9aCg$>
>    -
>
>    composed primarily of
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*RO_0002473__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcWTlv6s6w$> some
>    (sediment
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00002007__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcU_ZWuefw$> and
>    (composed primarily of
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*RO_0002473__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcWTlv6s6w$> some
>    (pebble
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00002139__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcVcsxw4ow$>
>     or cobble
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00002140__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcVLhipqRQ$>
>     or sand
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_01000017__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcVLuFFmnw$>
>     or gravel
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_01000018__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcXtCxPAow$>
>     or shell
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*UBERON_0006612__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcVDq_z1nA$>
>    )))
>
>
>    -
>
>    -
>
>       - sea beach
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00000092__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcX6RHt4YQ$>
>       -
>
>       + raised beach
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00000415__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcXD4o3EiQ$>
>       -
>
>       - shingle beach
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00000545__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcWtEsm18Q$>
>       -
>
>       - sandy beach
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00002199__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcWxCbLTpg$>
>       -
>
>       - lacustrine beach
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ontobee.org/ontology/ENVO?iri=http:**Apurl.obolibrary.org*obo*ENVO_00000093__;Ly8vLw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcVHtSV8Sg$> A
>       beach which is part of a lake shore.
>
>
> CMECS
>
> Beach (Levels 1 & 2) – A gently sloping zone formed by unconsolidated
> material at the shoreline, typically with a concave profile. This zone
> extends landward from the low-water line to either (a) the place where
> there is a definite change in material or physiographic form (such as a
> cliff) or (b) the line of permanent vegetation. Only those portions of the
> beach within the splash zone would be within the CMECS system; areas of the
> beach further inland are terrestrial systems.
>
>
> Sub-types - Barrier Beach, Mainland Beach, Pocket Beach, Tide-Modified
> Beach, Tide-Dominated Beach and Wave-Dominated Beach
>
>
> Gary Berg-Cross
> Potomac, MD
> 240-426-0770
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:10 AM Gary Berg-Cross <gbergcross at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Below is info for this Wednesday's  2 hour session.
> We decided to try having only one meeting a month for the cluster and this
> one will start an hour later (at 3 Eastern rather than 2)  to
> allow Brandon to participate. since the idea is  to start harmonizing
> CMECS with ENVO and SWEET.  By moving our Semantic Harmonization meeting
> to the 3rd week of March we will overlap with the SWEET meeting which takes
> place at 4 eastern time.
>  Kate should have some ideas on core items from CMECS  to consider.
> Here is some context from last month's meeting:
>
> Brandon was able to attend the Feb. meeting and we looked at his
> spreadsheet mapping some  CMECS  terms to SWEET.
>
> SWEET -> CMECS matches - Google Sheets
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r34bzoIv8U3Zu5TMWHBaX8SSMx-u64pKRali-p279Pk/edit*gid=0__;Iw!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcWMVu5hUg$>
>
>
> Some of the conversation about this is in the text below
>
> We also talked about the simple problems with alignment to SWEET, which
> lacks enough of the concepts that ENVO has.
>
>  And so we looked there too to see some placements and recognized that
> there would be quite a bit of development in ENVO based on CMECS under the
> habitat concept.
>
> We hope that , *Pier might take a look at this and help us develop a way
> forward* aligning  CMECS   on the one hand to SWEET and also to the more
> difficult concepts in ENVO
>
>  Brandon  may have  developed more spreadsheets for this meeting and Kate
> will be looking at her terminologies.
>
> A question was whether Pier would be able to attend this meeting to
> facilitate moving forward on the mapping of  CMECS.
>
>
>
> Meeting ID853 4485 3594
>  Invite Link
> https://esipfed-org.zoom.us/j/85344853594?pwd=cENuRUY1QW4wTDk2Z212K3cxSUVUQT09
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://esipfed-org.zoom.us/j/85344853594?pwd=cENuRUY1QW4wTDk2Z212K3cxSUVUQT09__;!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcXSOFjjOA$>
>
> https://esipfed-org.zoom.us/j/85344853594?pwd=cENuRUY1QW4wTDk2Z212K3cxSUVUQT09
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://esipfed-org.zoom.us/j/85344853594?pwd=cENuRUY1QW4wTDk2Z212K3cxSUVUQT09__;!!Mak6IKo!PZG3VYKRId0bvmA9fpndPRoLi0Io2pj0kVIoa4crF0N0Xj56mJ6afg8KxuPUSnVIU-Nb-FxaupT_ZcXSOFjjOA$>
>
> Gary Berg-Cross
> Potomac, MD
> 240-426-0770
>
>
>
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