<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Here is a link to the recording and notes for the last 2/3rd or so of today's meeting.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://transcripts.gotomeeting.com/#/s/08a24e27b6785b7badbe2474fc93311d93831984492b70fb28090502eefe1ff6">https://transcripts.gotomeeting.com/#/s/08a24e27b6785b7badbe2474fc93311d93831984492b70fb28090502eefe1ff6</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">Gary Berg-Cross </font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">Independent Consultant</font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">Potomac, MD</font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">240-426-0770</font></div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:"Segoe UI Historic","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap">"Urbanization, the industrialization of food systems, and the building of highways may have contributed to GDP over the short term, but they have created societal vulnerability over the longer term. In a world of Peak Oil, scarce fresh water, unstable currencies, changing climate, and declining trade, true “development” may require implementation of policies at odds with — sometimes the very reverse of — those of recent decades."</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:"Segoe UI Historic","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap">From -Richard Heinberg's <i>The End of Growth: Adapting to Our New Economic Reality</i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:16 AM Pier Luigi Buttigieg <<a href="mailto:pbuttigi@mpi-bremen.de">pbuttigi@mpi-bremen.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Nancy,<br>
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Gary also recorded the session, which we can share on the Slack I believe.<br>
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@Gary/Ruth: Where's the actual home for all the recordings?<br>
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On 10/09/2020 07:35, Ruth Duerr wrote:<br>
> I am so sorry you missed the call as well! We seem to be making <br>
> pretty good progress harmonizing ENVO and SWEET for cryospheric terms <br>
> in the GCW glossary report I put together. So Nancy, do you have a <br>
> collection of terms you’d like to see added to SWEET or harmonized <br>
> with SWEET and possibly ENVO? If so, provide a list and we can start <br>
> working on them in upcoming hackathon calls… The more the merrier! We <br>
> accomplished a lot today!<br>
><br>
> And yes, the hackathons are regularly the second Wednesday of the <br>
> month. I subscribe to the ESIP calendar or I’d never get the calls <br>
> straight (and I still screw up sometimes…. sigh…).<br>
><br>
> Ruth<br>
><br>
>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Nancy Wiegand <<a href="mailto:wiegand@cs.wisc.edu" target="_blank">wiegand@cs.wisc.edu</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wiegand@cs.wisc.edu" target="_blank">wiegand@cs.wisc.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> All, I am so sorry to have missed this. I just saw the email now. I <br>
>> could have easily called in as I was home.<br>
>> Is the second Wednesday of the month the usual time?<br>
>> Again, if I know what to work on, I would like to help.<br>
>> Thank you,<br>
>> Nancy Wiegand<br>
>><br>
>> On 9/9/2020 9:24 AM, <a href="mailto:esip-semanticharmonization@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-semanticharmonization@lists.esipfed.org</a> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> The ESIP Semantic Harmonization group meeting is today<br>
>>> *September 9, 2020** @ **2:00 pm** - **4:00 pm E**astern time*<br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>> *Some general info and links on <br>
>>> *<a href="https://wiki.esipfed.org/SemanticHarmonization" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.esipfed.org/SemanticHarmonization</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> There was a general agreement is yesterday’s Sem Tech session that <br>
>>> we would<br>
>>><br>
>>> use this as a hackathon-style effort and focus this harmonization <br>
>>> session on the mapping of Cryo<br>
>>><br>
>>> terms to EnvO (and SWEET). We had been matching more things up with <br>
>>> SWEET and ticketing issues.<br>
>>><br>
>>> See the Cryohackathon spreadsheet <br>
>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XmqB5F1SKLZ3y-PIVdQByU3Eho4cHAnUUafko3JNtn0/edit#gid=1512660924" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XmqB5F1SKLZ3y-PIVdQByU3Eho4cHAnUUafko3JNtn0/edit#gid=1512660924</a>> <br>
>>> for the terminologies.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Example:<br>
>>><br>
>>> periglaciation<br>
>>><br>
>>> proglacial<br>
>>><br>
>>> subglacial<br>
>>><br>
>>> supraglacial<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> depth hoar<br>
>>><br>
>>> frost<br>
>>><br>
>>> granular ice<br>
>>><br>
>>> hoar crystal<br>
>>><br>
>>> ice<br>
>>><br>
>>> ice crystal<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> As context some notes from our May session on terms.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> May 13^th Meeting (before our focus on the 5 pager and the ESIP <br>
>>> Summer session)<br>
>>><br>
>>> See <br>
>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O-3UW1RLp1UNaS2sNWfpIULmgIedB0NCBsYd1MaWWZY/edit#gid=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O-3UW1RLp1UNaS2sNWfpIULmgIedB0NCBsYd1MaWWZY/edit#gid=0</a> <br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> …..harmonizing EnvO and SWEET (along the semantic gradient) not <br>
>>> solving all of SWEET’s issues.<br>
>>><br>
>>> SWEET “glaciation” maps to EnvO “glacial ice gain”.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ruth notes that glaciations as time periods are named (e.g. <br>
>>> Pleistocene).<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Chuck geo-schema (with OWL-Time) might provide a cross walk for the <br>
>>> 2 ontologies looking at geo-time periods.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Work included editing Chuck’s owl file such as deprecating <br>
>>> “periglaciation”.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Getting back to harmonizing EnvO and SWEET (is this a 2 step <br>
>>> process? If we add the terms to SWEET, clean them up AND then see <br>
>>> how to map to EnvO.) :<br>
>>><br>
>>> Issue #185 - definition of “glaciation”. Involves meaning of <br>
>>> “glacial” and its sub-properties. Ruth notes 3 different meanings of <br>
>>> glaciation in GCW depending on the discipline. So 3 sub-types of <br>
>>> Glacial Process?<br>
>>><br>
>>> For example difference noted of glaciers advancing to cover land, <br>
>>> vs. “glacial ice gain” (mass).<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Issue 190: related to Issue 185. Will be resolved in the quality <br>
>>> section of EnvO/PATO.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Glacial retreat (Maybe also Glacial Advance). May now be more of a <br>
>>> non-issue for alignment but is a SWEET issue - is it a sub-class of <br>
>>> “melting”. Probably not.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Issue 185: shows the need to revise the whole branch area in SWEET.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Environmental zone discussion- some distinctions made by NEON about <br>
>>> named entity/ sampling sites. They may have fiat boundaries rather <br>
>>> than boundary from a physical process.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Q: Does an ablation zone have to be Part-Of a glacier...or is it <br>
>>> overlapping? This hasn’t been answered by the Cryo community. To <br>
>>> some iit can be elsewhere such as on an ice sheet.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So EnvO might have an “ice ablation zone” as well as the more <br>
>>> general “ ablation zone”.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Some discussion of geo-relations in BFO rather than Egenhofer relations.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Issue: Alpine - resolved exact match issue and noted issue in SWEET <br>
>>> about tundra concept.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Gary Berg-Cross Ph.D.<br>
>>> Independent Consultant<br>
>>> Potomac, MD<br>
>>> 240-426-0770<br>
>>> Alexis de Tocqueville, who studied us in the 1830s, wrote <br>
>>> <<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=SNYZBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=%E2%80%9CIndividualism,+at+first,+only+saps+the+virtue+of+public+life%22&source=bl&ots=0-7nby6tpn&sig=ACfU3U38h5a0gmoZPAzlrR15Z6LA96TmHg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRu-yt_7vrAhVYlXIEHcPkD3EQ6AEwAnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9CIndividualism%2C%20at%20first%2C%20only%20saps%20the%20virtue%20of%20public%20life%22&f=false" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://books.google.com/books?id=SNYZBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=%E2%80%9CIndividualism,+at+first,+only+saps+the+virtue+of+public+life%22&source=bl&ots=0-7nby6tpn&sig=ACfU3U38h5a0gmoZPAzlrR15Z6LA96TmHg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRu-yt_7vrAhVYlXIEHcPkD3EQ6AEwAnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9CIndividualism%2C%20at%20first%2C%20only%20saps%20the%20virtue%20of%20public%20life%22&f=false</a>> that <br>
>>> America’s cult of individualism was perilously close to raw <br>
>>> selfishness — the “me first” instinct we often see today.<br>
>>> “Individualism, at first, only saps the virtue of public life, but, <br>
>>> in the long run, it attacks and destroys all others, and is at <br>
>>> length absorbed in downright selfishness” — a strait that he warned <br>
>>> “blights the germ of all virtue.”<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
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