<div dir="ltr"><div>In the SSSOM example see the readme on <a href="https://github.com/mapping-commons/SSSOM/">this page</a> they set the table column up as <b>subject_id</b>,<b> predicate_id</b>,<b> object_i</b> where subject is the first ontology, predicate is the match type and object is the 2nd ontology. So I'm guessing we can follow that for the order of the mapping. For example the way we have it currently setup, the subject is ENVO and object is SWEET. So if we were to for a given mapping say the match type is broader following your above logic we'd be saying the SWEET term is broader than the ENVO term. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I hope we're on the same page, let me know if we're not.</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Kai<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:57 PM Ruth Duerr <<a href="mailto:ruth.duerr3@gmail.com">ruth.duerr3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><p style="text-align:center"><font color="red"><strong>External Email</strong><br></font></p>You know Nancy this is exactly why I brought the question up during the meeting. It is VERY confusing!!! But I think (crossing-my-fingers) you have it correctly.<div><br></div><div>Ruth</div><div><br></div><div>PS: Your message did actually go through via the email list, so I did get it twice….<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 16, 2022, at 3:18 PM, Nancy Wiegand <<a href="mailto:wiegand@cs.wisc.edu" target="_blank">wiegand@cs.wisc.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div><p>I can't send to the group, so I'm forwarding to just the 4 of
you. I'm sorry if I screwed things up. It is confusing.</p><p>Nancy<br>
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<td>SKOS problem, Re: Reminder to join Wednesday's
(2/16/2022 2-3 Eastern US, 6-7 UTC) ESIP Semantic
Harmonization</td>
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<td>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:15:48 -0600</td>
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<td>Nancy Wiegand <a href="mailto:wiegand@cs.wisc.edu" target="_blank"><wiegand@cs.wisc.edu></a></td>
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<td><a href="mailto:gbergcross@gmail.com" target="_blank">gbergcross@gmail.com</a>, Ruth Duerr
<a href="mailto:ruth.duerr3@gmail.com" target="_blank"><ruth.duerr3@gmail.com></a>, Pier Buttigieg
<a href="mailto:pbuttigi@mpi-bremen.de" target="_blank"><pbuttigi@mpi-bremen.de></a>, Mark Schildhauer
<a href="mailto:schild@nceas.ucsb.edu" target="_blank"><schild@nceas.ucsb.edu></a>, Brandon Whitehead
<a href="mailto:brandon.p.whitehead@gmail.com" target="_blank"><brandon.p.whitehead@gmail.com></a>, Kai Blumberg
<a href="mailto:kblumber@mpi-bremen.de" target="_blank"><kblumber@mpi-bremen.de></a>, Kate Rose
<a href="mailto:Kate.rose@noaa.gov" target="_blank"><Kate.rose@noaa.gov></a></td>
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<td>Simon Cox <a href="mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au" target="_blank"><Simon.Cox@csiro.au></a>, Charlesl.lm8ms F.
Vardeman II <a href="mailto:charles.vardeman@gmail.com" target="_blank"><charles.vardeman@gmail.com></a>, Robert
rovetto <a href="mailto:ontologos@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><ontologos@yahoo.com></a>, Megan Carter
<a href="mailto:megancarter@esipfed.org" target="_blank"><megancarter@esipfed.org></a>,
Esip-semanticharmonization
<a href="mailto:esip-semanticharmonization@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank"><esip-semanticharmonization@lists.esipfed.org></a>,
Lewis John McGibbney Ph.D., B.Sc.
<a href="mailto:lewis.j.mcgibbney@jpl.nasa.gov" target="_blank"><lewis.j.mcgibbney@jpl.nasa.gov></a>, Anne Thessen
<a href="mailto:annethessen@gmail.com" target="_blank"><annethessen@gmail.com></a>, Lindsay Barbieri
<a href="mailto:barbieri@esipfed.org" target="_blank"><barbieri@esipfed.org></a>, <a href="mailto:cverhey@oceannetworks.ca" target="_blank">cverhey@oceannetworks.ca</a>,
Nancy Wiegand <a href="mailto:wiegand@cs.wisc.edu" target="_blank"><wiegand@cs.wisc.edu></a></td>
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<div>I might have the wrong direction
regarding SKOS. At least it says (in <a href="https://www.w3.org/TR/skos-primer/#secrel" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/TR/skos-primer/#secrel</a>):</div>
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<div><strong>"Note on <code>skos:broader</code>
direction:</strong> for historic reasons, the name of the <code>skos:broader</code>
property (the word "broader") does not provide an explicit
indication of its direction. The word "broader" should read here
as "has broader concept"; the subject of a <code>skos:broader</code>
statement is the more specific concept involved in the assertion
and its object is the more generic one." <br>
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<div>and:</div>
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<pre>ex:mammals rdf:type skos:Concept;
skos:prefLabel "mammals"@en;
skos:broader ex:animals.
So, top to bottom, apparently the above would read as mammals 'has broader concept animals'. So, if our
spreadsheet is read left to right, and if we consider left is top and right is bottom, then it would be:
mammals animals broader
This would read as 'mammals has broader concept animals'. But, I don't know. Since it's our own spreadsheet,
maybe we could do it either way, although top=left and bottom=right probably is more similar.
Anyone know for sure?
Nancy
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<div>On 2/15/2022 11:27 AM, <a href="mailto:gbergcross@gmail.com" target="_blank">gbergcross@gmail.com</a>
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session is tomorrow. The usual agenda for the 1 hour
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Kate, Pier and Gary) </span>from the Marine domain<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">.</span><br>
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">There
is some thought of </span>update<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">s for</span>
Coastal and Marine Ecological Classification Standard (<a href="https://iocm.noaa.gov/standards/cmecs-home.html" target="_blank">CMECS</a>) - a
"structured catalog of ecological terms that also provides
a framework for interpreting, classifying, and
inter-relating observational data from all types of
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