<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Raul et al,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Thank you for the follow up response. I hope that some of the issues and understandings will</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">be helpful down the road.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I can understand the idea that a definition is implied in the collection axioms such as</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">you have for <span style="color:black">BulkDensityWholeSoil using the axioms</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p>
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<li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="color:black">is a subclass of
<u>sosa:Observation</u></span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="color:black">hasFeatureOfInterest a Layer or a Horizon</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">the <span style="color:black">
observedProperty </span><span lang="PL" style="color:black">is </span><span style="color:black">bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty
</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">and the expected values are
<span style="color:black">numeric (float) measured in KiloGM-PER-DeciM3</span></li></ul></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" style="" size="4">I do see some issue with the variance here to what is in typical definitions of <span style="color:rgb(96,30,14)"><a href="http://soilquality.org/indicators/bulk_density.html">Bulk Density</a></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><p style="line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail-bold_11" style="line-height:18px;font-weight:bold;color:rgb(51,51,51)">What it is:</span> Bulk density is an indicator of<u> soil compaction</u>. It is calculated as the dry weight of soil divided by its volume. This volume includes the volume of soil particles and the volume of pores among soil particles. Bulk density is typically expressed in g/cm3.</font></p></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="">Adding definitions like this is helpful to human understanding.</span></font></div><div><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="">This also suggests, of course, that definitions promote the idea some additional axioms including the relation to soil compaction (soil </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">has part compaction process<span class="gmail_default" style="">) </span></span>and a calculation process.</font></div><div><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="">EnvO, for example, has this </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><span class="gmail_default" style="">definition for</span>: compaction process<span class="gmail_default" style=""> which might be used as context:</span></span></font></div><pre style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4">def: "A physical process during which atoms, molecules, or other constituents of a material entity are forced closer together."</font></pre><pre style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><br></font></pre><pre style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">On the 2nd issue of how the soil domain is represented, I see that, as you say:</span></font></pre><pre style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">"</span></font><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">So, the domain knowledge is there but is not modelled as subclasses of soil concepts, but as types of observations of soil concepts<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">"</span></span></pre><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I wonder if people would agree that there is an understood soil domain which includes features (of interest) and that based on this integrated understanding observations are made to investigate the domain. </span></font><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Particular observations may be of interest for different types of soil and for purposes such as<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"> -</span> "is this soil compact enough<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">, </span>healthy enough<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"> or too acidic</span> to support this type<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"> (X)</span> of farming?<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">"</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></span></span></div><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">Gary Berg-Cross </font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">Potomac, MD</font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif" size="4">240-426-0770</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:35 PM Todd-Brown, Kathe via Esip-soil-informatics <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org">esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Raul Palma <<a href="mailto:rpalma@man.poznan.pl" target="_blank">rpalma@man.poznan.pl</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, May 7, 2021 at 5:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Egmond, Fenny van" <<a href="mailto:fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl" target="_blank">fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl</a>>, Luís de Sousa <<a href="mailto:luis.desousa@isric.org" target="_blank">luis.desousa@isric.org</a>>, Tomáš Řezník <<a href="mailto:tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz" target="_blank">tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz</a>>, Kathi Schleidt <<a href="mailto:kathi@datacove.eu" target="_blank">kathi@datacove.eu</a>>, "Bulens, Jandirk" <<a href="mailto:jandirk.bulens@wur.nl" target="_blank">jandirk.bulens@wur.nl</a>>, Bogusz Janiak <<a href="mailto:bogusz.janiak@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusz.janiak@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Todd-Brown, Kathe" <<a href="mailto:kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Esip-soil-informatics] Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sure, from my side I can say a few words.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding question 1. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed, the concepts are not having a textual description, apart from the codelists:
<a href="https://github.com/rapw3k/glosis/blob/master/glosis_cl_v1.0.0.ttl" target="_blank">https://github.com/rapw3k/glosis/blob/master/glosis_cl_v1.0.0.ttl</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"></span>The definition is at the owl level, so for example, <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">BulkDensityWholeSoil we can see that</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="color:black">is a subclass of
<u>sosa:Observation</u></span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="color:black">hasFeatureOfInterest a Layer or a Horizon</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">the <span style="color:black">
observedProperty </span><span lang="PL" style="color:black">is </span><span style="color:black">bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty
</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_-6243488198175980221MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">and the expected values are
<span style="color:black">numeric (float) measured in KiloGM-PER-DeciM3</span><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nevertheless, I agree having also textual descriptions would be a good addition.
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<p class="MsoNormal">This would require, though, to go through documentation and excels of the GLOSIS, but should be done.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding question 2.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think the view on this is a bit reverse.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The main concept taxonomy of the soil domain is derived from the ISO28258, as you can see in the picture attached.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Then all the observation types that we have defined in GloSIS are connected to those soil concepts (via the
<span style="color:black">hasFeatureOfInterest property).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"></span>So, the domain knowledge is there but is not modelled as subclasses of soil concepts, but as types of observations of soil concepts.
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To make it more explicit, we could make a superclass for all those observations, e.g., , something like “SoilObservation” (as a subclass of sosa:Observation) and then make all our observations subclasses of that
superclass (instead of being subclass of sosa:Observation). This way it could be clear that these are observations of soil concepts, but in terms of explicit semantics is not really adding much.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Perhaps others here have some opinions in this regard?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Cheers,<br>
Raul</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">"Egmond, Fenny van" <<a href="mailto:fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl" target="_blank">fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 7 May 2021 at 10:38<br>
<b>To: </b>Raul Palma <<a href="mailto:rpalma@man.poznan.pl" target="_blank">rpalma@man.poznan.pl</a>>, Luís de Sousa <<a href="mailto:luis.desousa@isric.org" target="_blank">luis.desousa@isric.org</a>>, Tomáš Řezník <<a href="mailto:tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz" target="_blank">tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz</a>>, Kathi Schleidt <<a href="mailto:kathi@datacove.eu" target="_blank">kathi@datacove.eu</a>>, "Bulens, Jandirk" <<a href="mailto:jandirk.bulens@wur.nl" target="_blank">jandirk.bulens@wur.nl</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Todd-Brown, Kathe" <<a href="mailto:kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>FW: [Esip-soil-informatics] Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I don’t know if you receive the emails on the emailstring below, so just to be sure I forward to you. Would one of you like to answer to Gary through
the mailing list?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Fenny</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Fenny van Egmond
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Esip-soil-informatics <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics-bounces@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-soil-informatics-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Berg-Cross via Esip-soil-informatics<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 06, 2021 19:38<br>
<b>To:</b> Todd-Brown, Kathe <<a href="mailto:kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ESIP, soil info <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Esip-soil-informatics] Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Garamond">I have two followup questions from the GLOSIS ontology presentation that there wasn't time</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Garamond">to cover during our hour session.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Garamond">1. Are there definitions in the GLOSIS ontology?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Garamond">When I look at a class in the ontology like " BulkDensityWholeSoil" I don't see definitions.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Garamond">And I can see a text version of the Owl file.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Garamond">For BulkDensityWholeSoil it is this segment info:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">glosis_lh:BulkDensityWholeSoil a owl:Class ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf <u>sosa:Observation </u>;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty sosa:hasFeatureOfInterest ; owl:allValuesFrom [owl:unionOf (glosis_lh:GL_Layer glosis_lh:GL_Horizon) ] ] ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty sosa:hasResult ; owl:allValuesFrom glosis_lh:BulkDensityWholeSoilValue ] ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty sosa:observedProperty ; owl:hasValue glosis_lh:bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty ] .</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">glosis_lh:bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty a sosa:ObservableProperty , qudt:Quantitykind ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:label "bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty"@en .</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">glosis_lh:BulkDensityWholeSoilValue a owl:Class ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf qudt:QuantityValue ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty qudt:numericValue ; owl:allValuesFrom xsd:float ] ;</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty qudt:unit ; owl:hasValue unit:KiloGM-PER-DeciM3] .</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">So no commented definition for this concept. In general I don't see definitions, but would believe you have them, they are useful for understanding the model of the domain. What am I missing?</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">2. I'd like to know more about thoughts on the "domain" taxonomy and structure. </span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">I see ample organization using concepts like sites and things that Observations out of SOSA and SSN.</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">These are bottom line useful for soil data by code etc.</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">But there seems to be little about the soil domain itself (like sub-classes).</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">Am I missing something or is that an issue?</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">I've attached a portion of the WebVowl view of Glosis which might make clearer</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">how I understand the domain organization and absence of a Soil concept as an organizer.</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">This would be useful for a real use case and for harmonizing across efforts.</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:black">Perhaps you have plans here.</span><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Raul for a fantastic overview of the GloSIS ontology. If you missed it you can find the recording here:
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https://youtu.be/q79p_oA5rtU</a> and Anne D took fantastic notes in the logistics document.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brief housekeeping: We now have ONE zoom room for both meetings and the easy and convenient calendar generating links might not auto update. Sorry that this information keeps changing,
please double check your calendar to make sure it matches the information on the google document
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<p class="MsoNormal">We will be meeting next on 19 May at 2300UTC. If no one comes forward with a different suggestion, on the agenda will be pulling together a soil semantic resource list for the ESIP
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are looking for other presentations! If you know of anyone working with soil data who would be interested in presenting please send them my way!<u></u><u></u></p>
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