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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=en-PL link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Gary,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Indeed, the ontology was derived from the GLOsis UML model; however, as described in the presentation it was not a direct one to one transformation of UML into OWL. The most important part of the ontology generation was the alignment with the SOSA/SSN model and approach (that is based and extends the SSO pattern). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The final ontology was just the initial step. Right now, for example, colleagues from ISRIC are extending the ontology to include the procedures associated to the different types of soil observations. Similarly, we could on the one hand, extend the ontology to include additional, but relevant, concepts coming from other models (currently missing in the ontology), and we could make alignments between the ontology and other relevant models (if any), e.g., creating equivalentClass, equivalentPropertiy or taxonomic axioms. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In any case, I think a first important step is adding textual (human-readable) descriptions to the ontology terms as much as possible. But this will require a good support from domain experts. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Best Regards,<br>Raul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Esip-soil-informatics <esip-soil-informatics-bounces@lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of Gary Berg-Cross via Esip-soil-informatics <esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org><br><b>Reply to: </b>Gary Berg-Cross <gbergcross@gmail.com><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 13 May 2021 at 18:32<br><b>To: </b>Kathi Schleidt <kathi@datacove.eu><br><b>Cc: </b>"ESIP, soil info" <esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Esip-soil-informatics] FW: Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Kathi et al,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>A few more thoughts. I hope they are useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>On your point:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Raul's task was not to design a soil ontology, but to transform the model for the Global Soil Information System GloSIS towards a semantic representation >thereof.</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Moving the data representation to the richer OWL form but in alignment with the original DB is useful, but I would note from Raul's presentation this which does use the concept of an ontology:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>"The presentation will provide an overview of the process for transforming the Glosis UML data model into an OWL ontology."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Point (or question) #1 raised the idea that one might refine, harmonize and add to this initial ontology over time with additional, but relevant concepts. These might come from and align with other soil DBs. There may be some definitional differences to resolve if this is attempted and the ontology can serve as an integration point and a conceptual basis for such growth. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>This does also touch on point #2,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>It is true that no one ontology may be suitable. There may be several but to avoid silos the possibility term and axiom reuse <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>should be considered. Glosis UML may not be the only basis for common and useful concepts in at least one larger ontology.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>To enable this some common soil ontology design patterns (SSO is one such) might be considered. Unlike SSO this would be more soil-centric.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Gary Berg-Cross </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Potomac, MD</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>240-426-0770</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:01 PM Kathi Schleidt via Esip-soil-informatics <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org">esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p><p>a bit of background from the underlying model that Raul has so nicely transformed to a more semantic representation - please bear in mind that Raul's task was not to design a soil ontology, but to transform the model for the Global Soil Information System GloSIS towards a semantic representation thereof. For details of that data model, please go back to the talk that Tomas Reznik and myself held for this group at the April 7th meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p>To point 1 and the definition of bulk density (pretty sure you'll encounter similar issues in a lot of the concepts for with data is foreseen) - all the requirements were extracted from the FAO Guidelines on Soil Description as well as the available drafts towards GloSIS - thus the semantics of these concepts should be aligned with those sources, ideally with domain experts, which we data geeks are definitely NOT (I just understand the structure of what you do, not the details ;) )<o:p></o:p></p><p>To point 2 representation of the soil domain - while I think the world is still looking for ONE ontology to support all requirements, I've become wary of this goal, as ontologies are strongly guided in their perspective on the world by their use cases - as GloSIS was designed to collect, harmonize, merge all available data on soil, it took a measurement-data-centric perspective, leading to the statement of:<o:p></o:p></p><p> "So, the domain knowledge is there but is not modelled as subclasses of soil concepts, but as types of observations of soil concepts"<o:p></o:p></p><p>I totally get the requirement for a more user-centric perspective on soil, but believe this should be a complementary (but interlinked) ontology representing user concepts and thus suitable for answering questions such as posed in your example of "is this soil compact enough, healthy enough or too acidic to support this type (X) of farming?" - if suitably interlinked, the user-centric system could then transpose the question of if "farming type X can be supported" to the measurement-data-centric perspective provided by GloSIS (accessing information on compactness, healthiness or acidity), aggregate this measurement data, put it in context, and return an answer.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Does this help?<o:p></o:p></p><p>:)<o:p></o:p></p><p>Kathi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11.05.2021 18:05, Gary Berg-Cross via Esip-soil-informatics wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Raul et al,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Thank you for the follow up response. I hope that some of the issues and understandings will<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>be helpful down the road.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>I can understand the idea that a definition is implied in the collection axioms such as<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>you have for <span style='color:black'>BulkDensityWholeSoil using the axioms</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>is a subclass of <u>sosa:Observation</u></span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>hasFeatureOfInterest a Layer or a Horizon</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>the <span style='color:black'>observedProperty </span></span><span lang=PL style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>is </span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty </span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>and the expected values are <span style='color:black'>numeric (float) measured in KiloGM-PER-DeciM3</span><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>I do see some issue with the variance here to what is in typical definitions of <span style='color:#601E0E'><a href="http://soilquality.org/indicators/bulk_density.html" target="_blank">Bulk Density</a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style='line-height:13.5pt'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:#333333'>What it is:</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'> Bulk density is an indicator of<u> soil compaction</u>. It is calculated as the dry weight of soil divided by its volume. This volume includes the volume of soil particles and the volume of pores among soil particles. Bulk density is typically expressed in g/cm3.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Adding definitions like this is helpful to human understanding.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>This also suggests, of course, that definitions promote the idea some additional axioms including the relation to soil compaction (soil </span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>has part compaction process<span class=gmaildefault>) </span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>and a calculation process.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>EnvO, for example, has this <span style='color:black'>definition for</span></span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>: compaction process<span class=gmaildefault> which might be used as context:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>def: "A physical process during which atoms, molecules, or other constituents of a material entity are forced closer together."</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>On the 2nd issue of how the soil domain is represented, I see that, as you say:</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:black'>"</span></span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>So, the domain knowledge is there but is not modelled as subclasses of soil concepts, but as types of observations of soil concepts</span><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:#222222'>"</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>I wonder if people would agree that there is an understood soil domain which includes features (of interest) and that based on this integrated understanding observations are made to investigate the domain. </span></span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Particular observations may be of interest for different types of soil and for purposes such as<span class=gmaildefault> -</span> "is this soil compact enough<span class=gmaildefault>, </span>healthy enough<span class=gmaildefault> or too acidic</span> to support this type<span class=gmaildefault> (X)</span> of farming?<span class=gmaildefault>"</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Gary Berg-Cross </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Potomac, MD</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>240-426-0770</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:35 PM Todd-Brown, Kathe via Esip-soil-informatics <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Raul Palma <<a href="mailto:rpalma@man.poznan.pl" target="_blank">rpalma@man.poznan.pl</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, May 7, 2021 at 5:13 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Egmond, Fenny van" <<a href="mailto:fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl" target="_blank">fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl</a>>, Luís de Sousa <<a href="mailto:luis.desousa@isric.org" target="_blank">luis.desousa@isric.org</a>>, Tomáš Řezník <<a href="mailto:tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz" target="_blank">tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz</a>>, Kathi Schleidt <<a href="mailto:kathi@datacove.eu" target="_blank">kathi@datacove.eu</a>>, "Bulens, Jandirk" <<a href="mailto:jandirk.bulens@wur.nl" target="_blank">jandirk.bulens@wur.nl</a>>, Bogusz Janiak <<a href="mailto:bogusz.janiak@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusz.janiak@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"Todd-Brown, Kathe" <<a href="mailto:kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Esip-soil-informatics] Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Sure, from my side I can say a few words.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Regarding question 1. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Indeed, the concepts are not having a textual description, apart from the codelists: <a href="https://github.com/rapw3k/glosis/blob/master/glosis_cl_v1.0.0.ttl" target="_blank">https://github.com/rapw3k/glosis/blob/master/glosis_cl_v1.0.0.ttl</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>The definition is at the owl level, so for example, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>BulkDensityWholeSoil we can see that</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>is a subclass of <u>sosa:Observation</u></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>hasFeatureOfInterest a Layer or a Horizon</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>the <span style='color:black'>observedProperty </span></span><span lang=PL style='color:black'>is </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>and the expected values are <span style='color:black'>numeric (float) measured in KiloGM-PER-DeciM3</span><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Nevertheless, I agree having also textual descriptions would be a good addition. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>This would require, though, to go through documentation and excels of the GLOSIS, but should be done.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Regarding question 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I think the view on this is a bit reverse.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>The main concept taxonomy of the soil domain is derived from the ISO28258, as you can see in the picture attached. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Then all the observation types that we have defined in GloSIS are connected to those soil concepts (via the <span style='color:black'>hasFeatureOfInterest property).</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>So, the domain knowledge is there but is not modelled as subclasses of soil concepts, but as types of observations of soil concepts. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>To make it more explicit, we could make a superclass for all those observations, e.g., , something like “SoilObservation” (as a subclass of sosa:Observation) and then make all our observations subclasses of that superclass (instead of being subclass of sosa:Observation). This way it could be clear that these are observations of soil concepts, but in terms of explicit semantics is not really adding much. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Perhaps others here have some opinions in this regard?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Cheers,<br>Raul</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"Egmond, Fenny van" <<a href="mailto:fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl" target="_blank">fenny.vanegmond@wur.nl</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, 7 May 2021 at 10:38<br><b>To: </b>Raul Palma <<a href="mailto:rpalma@man.poznan.pl" target="_blank">rpalma@man.poznan.pl</a>>, Luís de Sousa <<a href="mailto:luis.desousa@isric.org" target="_blank">luis.desousa@isric.org</a>>, Tomáš Řezník <<a href="mailto:tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz" target="_blank">tomas.reznik@sci.muni.cz</a>>, Kathi Schleidt <<a href="mailto:kathi@datacove.eu" target="_blank">kathi@datacove.eu</a>>, "Bulens, Jandirk" <<a href="mailto:jandirk.bulens@wur.nl" target="_blank">jandirk.bulens@wur.nl</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"Todd-Brown, Kathe" <<a href="mailto:kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>FW: [Esip-soil-informatics] Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don’t know if you receive the emails on the emailstring below, so just to be sure I forward to you. Would one of you like to answer to Gary through the mailing list?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks!</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Fenny</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal 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href="http://www.wur.nl/environmental-research" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-GB>www.wur.nl/environmental-research</span></a></span></u><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Esip-soil-informatics <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics-bounces@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-soil-informatics-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Berg-Cross via Esip-soil-informatics<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 06, 2021 19:38<br><b>To:</b> Todd-Brown, Kathe <<a href="mailto:kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kathe.toddbrown@essie.ufl.edu</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> ESIP, soil info <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Esip-soil-informatics] Followup questions from 5 May GLOSIS presentation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Raul,Et al. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>I have two followup questions from the GLOSIS ontology presentation that there wasn't time</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>to cover during our hour session.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>1. Are there definitions in the GLOSIS ontology?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>When I look at a class in the ontology like " BulkDensityWholeSoil" I don't see definitions.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>I used the link:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw3id.org%2Fglosis%2Fmodel%2Flayerhorizon%23BulkDensityWholeSoil&data=04%7C01%7Cfenny.vanegmond%40wur.nl%7C595735a6b14c4eb2735108d910b5fd78%7C27d137e5761f4dc1af88d26430abb18f%7C0%7C0%7C637559196823096956%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=5ErI2RUedWHG89qwam7bQAn3jOdlfRBQK%2BkJbIPMhwY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">http://w3id.org/glosis/model/layerhorizon#BulkDensityWholeSoil</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>And I can see a text version of the Owl file.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>For BulkDensityWholeSoil it is this segment info:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>glosis_lh:BulkDensityWholeSoil a <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>owl:Class ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf <u>sosa:Observation </u>;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty sosa:hasFeatureOfInterest ; owl:allValuesFrom [owl:unionOf (glosis_lh:GL_Layer glosis_lh:GL_Horizon) ] ] ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty sosa:hasResult ; owl:allValuesFrom glosis_lh:BulkDensityWholeSoilValue ] ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty sosa:observedProperty ; owl:hasValue glosis_lh:bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty ] .</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>glosis_lh:bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty a sosa:ObservableProperty , qudt:Quantitykind ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:label "bulkDensityWholeSoilProperty"@en .</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>glosis_lh:BulkDensityWholeSoilValue a owl:Class ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf qudt:QuantityValue ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty qudt:numericValue ; owl:allValuesFrom xsd:float ] ;</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty qudt:unit ; owl:hasValue unit:KiloGM-PER-DeciM3] .</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>So no commented definition for this concept. In general I don't see definitions, but would believe you have them, they are useful for understanding the model of the domain. What am I missing?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>2. I'd like to know more about thoughts on the "domain" taxonomy and structure. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>I see ample organization using concepts like sites and things that Observations out of SOSA and SSN.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>These are bottom line useful for soil data by code etc.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>But there seems to <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>be little about the soil domain itself (like sub-classes).</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Am I missing something or is that an issue?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>I've attached a portion of the WebVowl view of Glosis which might make clearer</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>how I understand the domain organization and absence of a Soil concept as an organizer.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>This would be useful for a real use case and for harmonizing <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>across efforts.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Perhaps you have plans here.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><img border=0 width=471 height=183 style='width:4.9062in;height:1.9062in' id="gmail-m_7866899356484757747gmail-m_-6243488198175980221_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.png@01D74844.72A5BF40"></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>T</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>hanks,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Gary Berg-Cross </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>O</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>ntolog Forum</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>Potomac, MD</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"garamond",serif'>240-426-0770</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:31 PM Todd-Brown, Kathe via Esip-soil-informatics <<a href="mailto:esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-soil-informatics@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Thank you Raul for a fantastic overview of the GloSIS ontology. If you missed it you can find the recording here: <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2Fq79p_oA5rtU&data=04%7C01%7Cfenny.vanegmond%40wur.nl%7C595735a6b14c4eb2735108d910b5fd78%7C27d137e5761f4dc1af88d26430abb18f%7C0%7C0%7C637559196823096956%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=BZXVbl%2BZXqEaJuX6ISCMKF1AFPAqL9WEKNtSE0tldlI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/q79p_oA5rtU</a> and Anne D took fantastic notes in the logistics document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Brief housekeeping: We now have ONE zoom room for both meetings and the easy and convenient calendar generating links might not auto update. Sorry that this information keeps changing, please double check your calendar to make sure it matches the information on the google document <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1_SIm_3e9xpni_64zdAU1DZrFEd8YcIerbsihDJq4qwY%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cfenny.vanegmond%40wur.nl%7C595735a6b14c4eb2735108d910b5fd78%7C27d137e5761f4dc1af88d26430abb18f%7C0%7C0%7C637559196823106951%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=gYlP727iDB9Nq9wW5sxXZ0XGrp1E8fk7Hb06dp98smg%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_SIm_3e9xpni_64zdAU1DZrFEd8YcIerbsihDJq4qwY/edit?usp=sharing</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>We will be meeting next on 19 May at 2300UTC. If no one comes forward with a different suggestion, on the agenda will be pulling together a soil semantic resource list for the ESIP Summer meeting (and ourselves!).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>We are looking for other presentations! If you know of anyone working with soil data who would be interested in presenting please send them my way!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>-Kathe<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>---------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>Katherine Todd-Brown, PhD</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'> 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