[Bessig] informal BESSIG meetup for software discussions?

Matthew Mayernik mayernik at ucar.edu
Tue May 24 17:54:49 EDT 2016


Erin, does ESIP already have a "local cluster" construct?  Are there
others, e.g. ESIP-Hollywood, or would Boulder be the first? (if BESSIG
wanted to go in that direction...)

Matt

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Anne Wilson via Bessig <
bessig at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> To those who commented, thank you.  (And thanks for remembering Space,
> SiriJodha!  The forgotten step child…)  I just wanted to follow up -
>
> In communicating with Erin, I understand that after some initial seed
> money we would still need to seek our own financial support.   For me,
> financial support is the driving reason for making a change in the first
> place.    Thus, with all due respect to all the good that ESIP does, I
> personally don't find the arrangement particularly compelling.   If others
> feel strongly to the contrary, I invite you to speak up.
>
> Anne
>
> From: "bessig at lists.esipfed.org" <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>
> Organization: University of Colorado
> Reply-To: "sjsk at nsidc.org" <sjsk at nsidc.org>
> Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:34 AM
> To: "bessig at lists.esipfed.org" <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [Bessig] informal BESSIG meetup for software discussions?
>
> I suppose one thing to consider when contemplating rebranding BESSIG to
> ESIP-Boulder is that we'd loose the "space" part of BESSIG, and, after all,
> LASP ("S" = "Space") was a prime mover in the formation of BESSIG.
>
> SiriJodha
> On 5/20/16 5:57 PM, Erin Robinson via Bessig wrote:
>
> Anne - Thinking about this a bit more. If BESSIG was under the umbrella of
> ESIP as a local cluster, ESIP-Boulder, there wouldn't be an issue in
> supporting and providing the financial backbone. The Drupal WG, for
> instance, is going after sponsorship to support Drupal-specific activities
> and we are managing funds.
>
> The big question to you and the group is would you want to rebrand to be
> ESIP-Boulder instead of BESSIG?
>
> Happy to talk more -
> Erin
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Anne Wilson via Bessig <
> <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>bessig at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Dan.   I have not heard that dollar amount.   Nor have I set up a
>> PayPal account.   I guess the question is, who owns the account?   Is that
>> any different than having a bank account?
>>
>> I would like to see some kind of legal entity would lend legitimacy and
>> allow us to approach businesses like Google and Twitter for support.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> From: Daniel Ziskin <ziskin at ucar.edu>
>> Date: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:24 PM
>> To: Anne Wilson <Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu>
>> Cc: Beth Huffer <huffer.beth at gmail.com>, soren scott <
>> sorenscott at gmail.com>, "bessig at lists.esipfed.org" <
>> <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>bessig at lists.esipfed.org>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Bessig] informal BESSIG meetup for software discussions?
>>
>> Becoming a non-profit is tedious but not difficult. I've gone through the
>> process several times. But it costs about $750. Could we just use something
>> like PayPal to handle our transactions?
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Anne Wilson via Bessig <
>> bessig at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sorry to be late to the party.   I'm up for Mon, 6/6, or Tue, 6/7.
>>>  Let me know.
>>>
>>> Regarding Alfalfa's – I'll take this opportunity to provide a status
>>> report to whole email list.
>>>
>>> As Soren said, Alfalfa's is spacious, quiet, comfortable, and the wifi
>>> works, which offers a lot.   The price is right if you want something
>>> that's free.  It could be great for 'special interest' meetings, like the
>>> topic in this thread.
>>>
>>> I was moderately disappointed in the venue for our monthly presentations
>>> because: one must bring one's own food and drink, it must be purchased from
>>> Alfalfa's, no alcohol is allowed, and parking is a somewhat of a barrier.
>>>  There may be a limit regarding how many times per month one group can
>>> reserve the space.
>>>
>>> Our meetings were best attended when it was easy to get food and
>>> beverage service in a suitable location.   As has been raised in the past,
>>> this is harder, if not impossible now, to achieve without some small
>>> budget.   It certainly requires labor to go around begging for space, which
>>> consistently dries up.   We need a better process.   As we were denied an
>>> ESIP-hosted bank account, another disappointment, it seems the only route
>>> left for managing group money is to become a non-profit.   I am motivated
>>> to pursue that and appreciate the support I've heard for doing so.
>>>
>>> In the mean time, I do have several speakers lined up, so I will
>>> probably just schedule Alfalfa's until we can get a bank account in place.
>>> I have topics for June, July, and August.   Please stay tuned.
>>>
>>> Thanks, all, for hanging in with the BESSIG!
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>> From: "bessig at lists.esipfed.org" <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>
>>> Reply-To: Beth Huffer < <huffer.beth at gmail.com>huffer.beth at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:33 PM
>>> To: soren scott <sorenscott at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: " <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>bessig at lists.esipfed.org" <
>>> bessig at lists.esipfed.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bessig] informal BESSIG meetup for software discussions?
>>>
>>> I have a slight preference for Tuesday. But it's only slight. Monday and
>>> Thursday are also fine.
>>>
>>> Beth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/18/16 11:08 AM, soren scott wrote:
>>>
>>> That week, outside of Wed (July 8), works for me. Any preferences for
>>> Monday, Tuesday or Thursday?
>>>
>>> Soren
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Beth Huffer via Bessig <
>>> <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>bessig at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Soren,
>>>>
>>>> I'm also interested in this discussion. I'm available the week of June
>>>> 6, but not the week of May 30, or the week of June 13.
>>>>
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/16 10:18 AM, soren scott via Bessig wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The St Julien is fine by me. Sometime early June?
>>>>
>>>> Alfalfas worked well. They are serious about the time limit (the band
>>>> after us wanted their whole two hours) but it was quiet and the wifi worked.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Soren
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Janine Aquino < <janine at ucar.edu>
>>>> janine at ucar.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested. How about meeting in the St. Julien. If we go at 4PM,
>>>>> it shouldn't be loud yet. They have a side-room that holds 25.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't make it to the meeting at Alfalfas. Did that not work out
>>>>> well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Janine
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:23 AM, soren scott via Bessig <
>>>>> <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>bessig at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, thanks Ruth, folks had expressed an interest in a more casual
>>>>>> get-together, early evening, possibly drinks, comfy seats but not so loud
>>>>>> so we could have a conversation. I just naturally assumed we'd all want to
>>>>>> talk code ;)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Soren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Ruth Duerr < <ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Soren,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am interested; but don’t have ready access to a quiet place for
>>>>>>> discussion unless it is during the work day (I am sure I could schedule an
>>>>>>> UCAR conference room).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:14 PM, soren scott via Bessig <
>>>>>>> <bessig at lists.esipfed.org>bessig at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello, BESSIG,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've been talking about software assessment quite a lot this spring
>>>>>>> (don't run away yet!) and I was wondering if folks had an interest in an
>>>>>>> informal gathering in the next few weeks - I have questions about the
>>>>>>> larger reusability/readiness models as we look at different aspects of code
>>>>>>> maturity, project maturity and how we manage those within grant cycles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let us know (and also if there are opinions on a reasonably quiet
>>>>>>> place for conversation)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Soren
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Soren Scott
>>>>>>> Research Coder
>>>>>>> The Ronin Institute for Independent Scholarship
>>>>>>> <soren.scott at ronininstitute.org>soren.scott at ronininstitute.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just a head's up - taking a bit of a sabbatical so if i don't
>>>>>>> get back to you right away, no worries.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Soren Scott
>>>>>> Research Coder
>>>>>> The Ronin Institute for Independent Scholarship
>>>>>> <soren.scott at ronininstitute.org>soren.scott at ronininstitute.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just a head's up - taking a bit of a sabbatical so if i don't
>>>>>> get back to you right away, no worries.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Janine
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Soren Scott
>>>> Research Coder
>>>> The Ronin Institute for Independent Scholarship
>>>> <soren.scott at ronininstitute.org>soren.scott at ronininstitute.org
>>>>
>>>> just a head's up - taking a bit of a sabbatical so if i don't
>>>> get back to you right away, no worries.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> Research Coder
>>> The Ronin Institute for Independent Scholarship
>>> <soren.scott at ronininstitute.org>soren.scott at ronininstitute.org
>>>
>>> just a head's up - taking a bit of a sabbatical so if i don't
>>> get back to you right away, no worries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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