[ESIP-all] ESIP Visioneers telecon on Monday
brbarkstrom at gmail.com
Sat Sep 22 11:51:54 EDT 2012
Metaphors? How about allegory?
It might actually be fun to take the old "Adventure" game
and convert it to hypertext - one page per room (and have
fun with the "twisty little maze"). Let's see, then you could
have some of the rooms with books that you could open
and they'd have some kind of spell or activity or clue.
Do the "climate denier tribe" members wear dark cloaks
and pointy hats? Do members of the climate modeling tribe
wander about like the tin man in the Wizard of Oz?
Obviously anyone speaking of "baroclinic instability"
or "vorticy" must know some pretty powerful spells,
since it's awfully hard to translate these spells into
the polite common tongue.
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Mark A. Parsons <parsonsm at nsidc.org>wrote:
> Like! Stories, narratives, dialects, ethnography, frames, perhaps even
> metaphors ;-)
> Sent from my iPad. Pardon my mistyped brevity.
> On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Bruce Barkstrom <brbarkstrom at gmail.com>
> Great Idea. Most of the time, when we humans want to understand things
> we tell stories. You might even want to go dig out some references on
> hypertext narrative theory. The subject sometimes showed up in Barnes and
> under literary criticism. See "Hamlet on the Holodeck" and such.
> A natural community for this is the SIGWEB group of the ACM.
> I'm still a member (although not terribly active). Interesting meetings,
> This approach might also allow you to build narratives that use the
> dialect of a
> particular community, so that searching or using linked data is stated
> in terms that people in that community would use. As a subtext from
> my point of view, this would mean that you wouldn't try to develop a
> "universal and interoperable" language, you'd need to think about how
> to translate terms between communities. You might find Umberto
> Eco's book "Kant and the Platypus" interesting as a kind of adult
> guide (with disconnected essays) to language and how we move
> from perceptions to categories. I'm pretty well convinced that we
> need to stop trying to provide "definiitive" verbal categories and move
> to empirical classification strategies (motto that goes with this is
> STOP WORD SMITHING - FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IN THE REAL
> WORLD - but there are some papers that would need to go with this).
> An example of the difficulty is trying to translate from the experience
> of a biological community (dealing with naming unique specimens)
> to the experience of a climate modeling community (dealing with continuous
> One way to build stories is to think of a "tribal" experience - or a visit
> a strange "tribe" in a particular environment. To prime the pump, you
> could start with a list of characters - then visualize them and give them
> personalities. Next (or maybe first), build a storyboard that might lay
> out how some plot themes would work out. Maybe some of the stories
> would be like a hypertext version of the old text game "Adventure". If
> so, would your story have knife throwing dwarves or pirates that would
> steal some of your loot? Maybe for climate you could let people play
> like they were up against billionaires who want to steal an election where
> a piece
> of climate legislation is critical. You could throw in various natural
> disasters (drought, hurricanes, the collapse of the Greenland Ice Cap
> and the flooding of Disneyworld in Orlando, etc.). If you wanted to get
> really fancy, you could try making it a multi-player game and let people
> join tribes (climate modelers versus villainous climate deniers).
> Simcity and related games might also be interesting starting points.
> This approach would also fit with work on running scenarios that let
> participants try to design policies that "minimize regret" [another
> technical term in the dialect of the community of scenario builders].
> Rand Corp. had an article on this approach in Scientific American
> a number of years ago. It might also fall under the general category
> of "serious games".
> If you wanted to get really fancy, you could even create agents with
> personalities and turn them loose with concurrent, decision-making.
> You'd need to think about using UML and multi-threaded architctures
> (grid or cloud computing fit with this naturally). The swim-lane
> synchronization diagrams in UML can help design "conversations"
> between agents (or between agents and people).
> In short, sounds like fun. Always the best starting point for research.
> Life's too short to be filled with just drudge work.
> Bruce B.
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Pat Cappelaere <pat at cappelaere.com>wrote:
>> Here is a theme that I have been working on as part of my role as chair
>> of the OGC REST Standards Working Group, and development of the NASA
>> SensorWeb thanks to support of NASA ESTO:
>> Story Telling - An Activity-oriented architecture based on REST to bridge
>> linked data to our end-users using action links and activity streams to
>> enable the sharing of stories around data (and encourage user participation
>> in those activities)
>> Let me know if this may interest the group.
>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Bruce Caron <bruce at tnms.org> wrote:
>> As Erin said earlier this week:
>> We are currently working on a theme in the Visioneers group. Since the
>> draft Climate Assessment will most likely be out, some of the suggested
>> themes are around using data and technology to support grand challenges
>> like climate. Ideas are on the wiki<http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Winter_2013_Meeting>,
>> feel free to edit/add. The next Visioneers call<http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Visioneers>
>> is Monday, Sept. 24, 1 EDT.
>> A part of the conversation from the last call was a theme that could
>> speak to more "actionable" data resources (e.g., "earth intelligence")
>> around climate. This would also embrace visualizations that are more than
>> data pictures.
>> Love to have all your ideas on Monday, Sept. 24, 1 EDT.
>> talk with you soon
>> bruce caron
>> visioneers working group chair.
>> Bruce Caron, PhD
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