[ESIP-all] Looking for recent earth observations of the Tasman Sea

David Manthos david.manthos at skytruth.org
Fri Aug 9 10:17:10 EDT 2013


Sorry, meant to paste this link:

http://blog.skytruth.org/2012/06/bilge-dumping-busted-using-satellite.html

-D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM, David Manthos
<david.manthos at skytruth.org>wrote:

> Unfortunately hi-res optical is the only imaging tool to really have a
> chance of picking up wreckage or a vessel that size in distress. Tomnod has
> that, to the extent it is possible.
>
> I'm sure it's a long shot, but did the vessel have an automatic
> identification system (AIS) transponder?  If so, it may be worth contacting
> folks like ExactEarth with satellites that pick up those signals, to at
> least get a last known position. This blog post explains the extent of our
> capabilities before Envisat died last year, as you can see, the Dona
> Liberta is a tiny white speck on radar satellite image, even though it is
> much larger than the Nina. Now radar satellite is a very expensive
> proposition, and would not pick up vessels so small, let alone a life raft
> with no power. Sorry we can't help more and certainly hope they are found
> and all is well.
>
> -D
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Paul Woods <paul at skytruth.org> wrote:
>
>> Frazmo et al:
>>
>> Have you folks looked at Tomnod?
>>
>> http://tomnod.com/nod/challenge/ninarescue2
>>
>> The've got hi-res imagery form Digital Globe.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:23 PM, frazmo <frazmo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It may be a long shot, but the folks at Skytruth might be able to help
>> with this issue of the lost ship. See their web site at:
>>
>> http://skytruth.org/
>>
>> and the recent article from the Washington Post Sunday magazine, which is
>> informative and could be of general interest to the community:
>>
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/skytruth-the-environment-and-the-satellite-revolution/2013/07/31/3a1d181a-d52b-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story.html
>>
>> The same kinds of techniques they use to find illegal fishing ships could
>> be relevant to the question of what happened to the Schooner SV Niña. Best
>> and cheers,
>>
>> Steve Young
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Joe Hourcle <
>> oneiros at grace.nascom.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not much of one for observations pointed down from spacecraft.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of any near-real-time observations of sufficient
>>> spatial resolution to help?
>>>
>>> (that they're actually allowed to talk about, of course)
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> > From: Barbara Thompson <barbara.j.thompson at gmail.com>
>>> > Date: August 8, 2013 6:26:43 PM EDT
>>> > To: Joe Hourclé <oneiros at annoying.org>
>>> > Subject: Virtual data pointing in the other direction?
>>> >
>>> > Joe,
>>> >
>>> > My friend Ralph is leading a search and rescue effort for a ship that's
>>> > been missing on the Tasman Sea.  They were last heard from June 4.
>>>  We're
>>> > trying to get images from May 28 to the present (emphasis on the
>>> earlier
>>> > part of that window) to see if we can get any clue of what's happened
>>> to
>>> > them.  There are 7 people on board - one of the people on the Schooner
>>> SV
>>> > Niña is Evi Nemeth, author of many famous Unix/Linux sysadmin manuals.
>>>  : (
>>> >
>>> > Google granted us a free license to Google Earth Pro, but it still
>>> doesn't
>>> > have images that are recent enough.  I wrote Google to see if they
>>> could
>>> > give us more recent images, but I haven't heard back.  I'm kind of lost
>>> > when it comes to Earth-pointed data, but then I realized I have a
>>> friend
>>> > who is involved in Informatics for the American Geophysical Union.  : )
>>> >
>>> > Any idea how to get high-res data?  The ship is 70 feet long, so the
>>> 1.5-m
>>> > resolution stuff in google earth would be fine.  Until we get images,
>>> > they're focusing on ocean current models + drift models for other
>>> abandoned
>>> > ships to help the aerial searchers more clearly refine the expected
>>> > location for the ship.
>>> >
>>> > The ship was fairly well equipped for a 3-week cruise, so it's
>>> possible for
>>> > them to survive with their supplies + fishing for several months.
>>> >
>>> > Any advice is appreciated.  We're posting info on the efforts at:
>>> >
>>> > http://evxx.com/
>>> >
>>> > Anyhow, if you have any idea how to get high-resolution data over the
>>> > Tasman Sea, I'd be very happy to hear it.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > Barbara
>>>
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