[ESIP-all] Fwd: Request for Information on Development of a National Plan for Civil Earth Observations

Sat Nov 9 17:23:48 EST 2013

I think this is a great discussion - it hits on a few key points from my dissertation research.  I have felt it comes down to who will we be educating - information scientists/data curation experts to have domain knowledge as well, or educating domain scientists in how to manage their data?

Ultimately it will be a bit of both, but it does depend on the organization - which means, the real question is, is there room for specialization?  Organizations may need to restructure themselves to include individuals who specialize in data science/stewardship/curation or at least change the roles of the current staff to address the need for this type of specialization.

I think the national plan will influence how other organizations value these roles.

Thanks,
Sarah

Sarah Ramdeen PhD Student
School of Information and Library Science
University of North Carolina
ramdeen at email.unc.edu
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From: esip-all-bounces at lists.esipfed.org [mailto:esip-all-bounces at lists.esipfed.org] On Behalf Of Rudolf Husar
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Subject: Re: [ESIP-all] Fwd: Request for Information on Development of a National Plan for Civil Earth Observations

A small extension to Chaitan's point on the need "to train scientists .. in basics of data science":  The professional data scientists/stewards/curators would also need to learn how to make their tools/methods and insights relevant, accessible and usable for practicing scientists/data analysts. In other words, how to turn data science/curation/stewardship into an enabling discipline of other fields. It want just happen.

Great discussion, huh?

Rudy

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Center for Air Pollution Impact and Trend Analysis (CAPITA),
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Baru, Chaitanya <baru at sdsc.edu<mailto:baru at sdsc.edu>> wrote:

I agree that it is essential to raise the profile of data science in this effort. I would offer a friendly amendment related to education and training. Yes, there is a need for data scientists/stewards/curators as distinct professionals, but there is also a need to train scientists (actually, I would say all citizens) in the basics of data science. So, such efforts to continue to collect huge amounts of data should be accompanied by efforts in education and training related to data per se.

--chaitan

From: <Parsons>, Mark <parsom3 at rpi.edu<mailto:parsom3 at rpi.edu>>
Date: Friday, November 8, 2013 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [ESIP-all] Fwd: Request for Information on Development of a National Plan for Civil Earth Observations

Thanks Carol. Important stuff.

Might I be so bold to suggest that the ESIP membership sing in a harmonious voice on one key message:

Involve data scientists/managers/curators/stewards directly in the science and observations early and throughout the process at all levels (senior planning to field/lab support). This means funding data science as an integral part of the scientific and observing effort and before, during, and after the observation period.

cheers,

-m.
On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Carol Meyer <carolbmeyer at esipfed.org<mailto:carolbmeyer at esipfed.org>> wrote:

Please comment as you deem appropriate. This plan has been coming for some time and it likely will inform many policies for our collective future.

Kind regards,
Carol

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From: Stryker, Tim <Timothy_S_Stryker at ostp.eop.gov<mailto:Timothy_S_Stryker at ostp.eop.gov>>
Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Subject: Request for Information on Development of a National Plan for Civil Earth Observations
To: "Stryker, Tim" <Timothy_S_Stryker at ostp.eop.gov<mailto:Timothy_S_Stryker at ostp.eop.gov>>

Dear Colleagues in Earth Observations,

On Tuesday, November 12, the Federal Register is scheduled to post OSTP's Request for Information (RFI) on development of the U.S. National Plan for Civil Earth Observations.   In the meantime, the RFI is publicly accessible via the on-line Federal Register, through the link below:

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/12/2013-26890/national-plan-for-civil-earth-observations-requests-for-information

We  would welcome your input as we develop the Plan.  If you wish to provide input, I would encourage you to do so via the RFI's downloadable form, which should be sent to earthobsplan at ostp.gov<mailto:earthobsplan at ostp.gov>.

With thanks and best regards,

Tim Stryker

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