[Esip-citationguidelines] Kick-off meeting tomorrow

[Parsons, Mark]

Hi all,

Thanks for joining today. I think we have a path forward. Please see the notes<https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit#heading=h.lqbr5hu66y8l>.

I have started the matrix of citation concerns and research objects<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VEYPLgTsCR_zbMUbThonBrqaYqBiMT4e525NzFi7ql8/edit?usp=sharing>. Everyone, please add additional concerns and objects and any general comments. We will discuss this at the next meeting. The cells of the matrix should highlight where there are unique considerations. We want to identify where in the matrix we should focus our attention.

We will have a summer session exploring how different organizations are implementing data and software citation to compare and contrast. Jessica, can you please draft a session proposal?

We will propose an AGU session “When to cite a Research Object”. Mark, Nancy, Natalie, and Sophie to draft a proposal.

Next month we will have a talk by Frew and Niklas on dynamic citation in OpenDAP  and we will discuss what's next with the matrix.

cheers,

-m.
On 21 Mar 2019, at 08:51, Parsons, Mark via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:

Hello again,

In preparation for this morning’s call, I dug up an issues list that we started last summer and updated it a little based on recent work. This may help us get started: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19gf347eJWxTFkPOoYNV-4WFDOA9UI7O5crYSLMoArPQ/edit?usp=sharing

See also our ongoing notes, especially from winter meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit#heading=h.lqbr5hu66y8l

I see at least three ways we could proceed, but I’d like to hear what others think too

1. Identify the basic concerns of citation and tackle one to develop an ESIP Recommendation
2. Continue to build use cases in a manner to what Force11 began with software. We kinda started that here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Rh-M4WV9kqcxGWuYYC6R39cBaKxwoW9F3KS7y_sZpNw/edit#heading=h.l3h5j264leai
3. Make it more of an educational group. Have speakers and run a sort of book club, where we read and discuss papers or recommendations and discuss how they might address issues in Earth science.

Talk soon.

cheers,

-m.


On 20 Mar 2019, at 17:33, Parsons, Mark via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:

Hi all,

We have our inaugural Research Object Citation cluster meeting tomorrow, 21 March, at noon Eastern time.
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/429077789

In this meeting, I want to better define our scope. We said we want to take a step back and reconsider citation at a fundamental level. We need to decide what that means and what we will do over the next year.

As a cluster, we need to *do* something, but I think we need to begin with self-education and research. What is a research object? What actually needs to be cited? Do we need to more explicitly separate the concerns of citation (credit, access, provenance, validation, etc.)? I have some ideas on all this, but I would like to hear others. I will present some more ideas tomorrow morning, but meanwhile you all should be thinking broadly about the goals of this cluster and how we can advance toward those goals.

More email and discussion tomorrow…

cheers,

-m.

p.s. The revised data citation guidelines are finalized and have been submitted to ESIP for final endorsement by the Assembly. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DjM8SBJOOSSwANoOmW6arN-KiwAv1895K0tZkLU5sxs/edit?usp=sharing

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