<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks very much for pointing this out. I corrected the link to point to the same blog on <a href="http://metadatagamechangers.com" class="">metadatagamechangers.com</a>. All of my blogs are now on that site. Many of them describe various aspects of identifier adoption in Earth Science repositories. Still a long way to go in general.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is important to remember that this blog was written during March 2019, over four years ago. Nevertheless, it remains true that ORCIDs are the most difficult identifier to find in published journal articles. Too many publishers focus on identifying only corresponding authors, typically one / article. Of course this means that most authors never get connected to their papers in tools like DataCite Commons. Unfortunately, it is difficult to add ORCIDs to these papers retrospectively.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tracking awards from funders is an interesting problem that I have also done some <a href="https://metadatagamechangers.com/blog/2022/2/2/funder-metadata-identifiers-and-award-numbers" class="">work</a> on. Developing a new identifier to track awards seems might distract GSA from taking effective advantage of current tools…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again,</div><div class="">Ted</div><div class=""> </div><div class=""> <br class=""><div class="">
<span><img apple-inline="yes" id="EDF5AB54-6D3F-445C-9FE2-2DC6476425D3" src="cid:A00B96C9-30A9-4652-B862-5B4C8365FA30@hsd1.co.comcast.net" class=""></span><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Dr. Ted Habermann</span><br style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri;" class=""><a href="http://metadatagamechangers.com/" style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Metadata Game Changers</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">ROR: <a href="https://ror.org/05bp8ka05" class="">https://ror.org/05bp8ka05</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ORCID: </span><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">0000-0003-3585-6733</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:ted@tedhabermann.com" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a></div>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 10, 2023, at 6:52 AM, Diana via Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Good morning, Ted,</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br class=""></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Thank you for providing a link to this ESIP work! In it, there is a citation that <a class="external text ContentPasted0" href="https://www.tedhabermann.com/blog/2019/3/25/the-big-picture-how-has-crossref-metadata-completeness-improved" data-loopstyle="link" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(27, 89, 155);">lest than 10% of current Crossref journal article metadata</a><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">.<span class="ContentPasted0"> , however, that link is broken. It appears to be work that you have done. Can you provide the citation? In particular, I am interested in the methods.</span></span></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;"><span class="ContentPasted0"><br class=""></span></span></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;"><span class="ContentPasted0">I am aware of several persistent identifier systems and some that are under development (e.g. one to track GSA awards). It might be useful to review the level of implementation of existing systems across the Earth Sciences.</span></span></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;"><span class="ContentPasted0"><br class=""></span></span></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;"><span class="ContentPasted0">Warm regards</span></span></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="ContentPasted0" style="font-family: Lato, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "Noto Sans", sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Noto Color Emoji"; text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 37, 41); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;"><span class="ContentPasted0">Diana Ma</span></span></div><div id="appendonsend" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 928.046875px;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ted Habermann <<a href="mailto:ted@metadatagamechangers.com" class="">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 6, 2023 18:18<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Esip-citationguidelines <<a href="mailto:esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org" class="">esip-citationguidelines@lists.esipfed.org</a>>; Diana <<a href="mailto:diana.ma@hippocampusanalytics.com" class="">diana.ma@hippocampusanalytics.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Some other ESIP work: Funding Friday Project titled Identifying ESIP</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word;">Hello all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also a reminder of a Funding Friday Project done several years ago. The lists of identifiers (RORs in this case) are still valid as the RORs are persistent, but the number of RORs continues top increase so some may be missing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ted</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://wiki.esipfed.org/Category:Identifying_ESIP_Connections" class="">https://wiki.esipfed.org/Category:Identifying_ESIP_Connections</a></div><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span class=""><span id="cid:A00B96C9-30A9-4652-B862-5B4C8365FA30@hsd1.co.comcast.net"><Logo - Light - Better Text Below Logo.png></span></span><br class="x_Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span class="" style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; 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