[Esip-discovery] Tools Casting

Steve Aulenbach saulenbach at neoninc.org
Thu Jul 21 12:39:44 EDT 2011


I am very interested.

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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Ruth Duerr <rduerr at nsidc.org> wrote:

> Hi Sky,
>
> Yes, tools that range from an actual web application to a web service to a
> static map do all fall within the existing concept of ServiceCasting (or at
> least they do here though not all our services are yet cast). The only one I
> am not sure about is the to a discussion of a decision support methodology;
> mostly because I am not certain what that is - so perhaps a bit more
> discussion needs to happen around that.  However, I am open to ideas for
> making these discovery technologies more flexible and semantically
> meaningful.  As for your second question about collaboration - I can't speak
> for the cluster as a whole, but I certainly am open to that sort of
> collaboration (actually I kind of think that is the whole point of ESIP and
> clusters and what not).  What do others think?
>
> Ruth
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Sky wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I thoroughly enjoyed attending my first ESIP meeting last week. There's
> certainly a wealth of good work going on, and I look forward to tying in
> much of our similar work from USGS.
> >
> > Along those lines, I had a great conversation today with Alison LaBonte
> with OSTP who gave a talk last week in one of the Energy and Climate cluster
> sessions on some work she is doing with a "Wind-Wildlife Federal Task
> Force." They are seeking to navigate the somewhat muddy waters of the many
> decision support tools available and forthcoming that are designed to help
> resource management agencies determine placement on wind development
> projects in relation to wildlife concerns. I wasn't there for it, but I
> understand that the Energy and Climate group ended up coming up with a
> proposal for a "dynamic online catalogue of decision tools."
> >
> > In looking this week at how we in USGS can add datacasting and
> servicecasting conventions and package the ATOM feeds from our ScienceBase
> cataloging platform, it occurs to me that we could look toward a
> toolscasting concept for this dynamic catalog of tools. In a lot of ways,
> the existing servicecasting conventions that I see referenced from a JPL
> source already fit the bill. Most of the decision support tools would fall
> into the category of a "rel=human" interface of one stripe or another. I can
> think of at least one example we're working on with NOAA that actually does
> take the form of a machine interactive service. The real work will be in
> developing the conventions for both basic descriptive information and
> possible "customElement" definitions (to borrow from the DataCasting
> concept) that would apply to the domain of decision support tools.
> >
> > So, does the description of a tool that might range from an actual web
> application to a web service to a static map to a discussion of a decision
> support methodology fall within the existing concept of ServiceCasting? Or
> does this area deserve its own branch of the concept into ToolsCasting?
> Would folks from the Discovery Cluster have an interest in collaborating
> with folks from the Energy and Climate Cluster, the USGS, OSTP, and this
> federal task force in developing a conceptual architecture for a solution
> and helping to set it in motion? Is this the kind of thing that goes on
> within this community space (for the barely initiated and not quite ESIP'd
> me)?
> >
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