[Esip-documentation] ACDD 2-3 question

John Graybeal via Esip-documentation esip-documentation at lists.esipfed.org
Wed May 21 15:20:47 EDT 2014


Hi Anna,

As a significant driver I'll offer one opinion. Caveat emptor.
> 1. Is this the best version to be using? (They will NOT be using groups)
Arguably, yes it is the best version to be using, but it is not approved at this point. I would say the status is 'stalled in a mostly happy place' -- with one exception, I haven't heard any complaints about this current 'Working' draft, which has been around for many months now and has been carefully reviewed by at least one person.  I *think* that all that is required for approval is for Derrick Snowden (or someone he designates, ideally not the principle updater, hint hint) to call a discussion/next steps meeting, at which any remaining issues can be raised and resolved.

There is only one open issue under discussion, namely whether the adoption of summary metadata for geospatiotemporal ranges is good, tolerable, or bad. It is hard to know for sure whether that will be changed (I suspect it will not, just from comments so far). It is my hope that the fact all these attributes are *recommended*, not *required*, means that it will be acceptable to leave this material in, perhaps with precautionary language (a proposal for which has already been added).  We haven't had a discussion in the group yet about this topic.

So if you have a tolerance for the risks above (that it might never get approved, that it might end up a little different), I'd say yes, because there are a LOT of clarifications and improvements. (Says the significant driver.)  You can cite the specific version number, 1.2.3, as a way to be extra clear about versions. (This will be version 2 when approved.)
> 2. Are the date_modified, date_created, date_issued fields deprecated in favor of the following elements date_content_modified, date_values_modified, date_product_generated fields? 
Yes.  I don't love the word deprecated; but on reflection, this may be another issue to take care of, given we did explicitly 'deprecate' one term already. Good question, thanks for bringing it up.

Nan's recollection of why these changed is correct. I came up with the new language with her and a few others, as we felt the previous language (and names) were ambiguous.

John



On May 21, 2014, at 11:06, Anna Milan - NOAA Federal via Esip-documentation <esip-documentation at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

> Hi All, 
> I'm helping DSCOVR define their netCDF elements and am using the guidance from this ACDD version: 
> http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_%28ACDD%29_Working
> 
> 
> 1. Is this the best version to be using? (They will NOT be using groups)
> 2. Are the date_modified, date_created, date_issued fields deprecated in favor of the following elements date_content_modified, date_values_modified, date_product_generated fields? 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your response! 
> Anna
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