<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Ed,<div><br></div><div>Good to hear your voice.. I think this might be a smother URL (no spaces): <a href="https://wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3">https://wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3</a></div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
<span><img alt="Logo - Light - Better Text Below Logo copy.png" src="cid:6CFDA8B2-30D4-4487-A748-CAE7ABB83DF9"></span><meta charset="UTF-8"><div style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="CenturyGothic"><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Dr. Ted Habermann<br></span></font><a href="http://metadatagamechangers.com/">Metadata Game Changer</a></div><div style="font-family: "Century Gothic"; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Calibri">GRID: </font></span><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">grid.510301.6</span><span style="font-style: normal;"><font face="Calibri"><br><span style="font-size: 12px;">ORCID: </span></font><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12px;">0000-0003-3585-6733</a></span></font></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ted-habermann-141b6764/">LinkedIn</a><font face="CenturyGothic"><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;"><br></span></font><a href="mailto:ted@metadatagamechangers.com">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Armstrong, Edward M (US 398P) <edward.m.armstrong@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: CenturyGothic; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 4pt;">This reference is in the NASA Data Product Development Guide;<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 4pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 767px;"><tbody><tr><td width="6%" valign="top" style="width: 47.8125px; padding: 0.75pt;"><p class="MsoBibliography" style="margin: 6pt 0in; line-height: 16.866667px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN">[80]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="92%" valign="top" style="width: 709.203125px; padding: 0.75pt;"><p class="MsoBibliography" style="margin: 6pt 0in; line-height: 16.866667px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN">ESIP Documentation Cluster, "Attribute Conventions for Data Discovery," 5 September 2023. [Online]. Available:<a href="http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery. [Accessed 12 Janaury 2024].<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 4pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Esip-documentation <esip-documentation-bounces@lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of John Graybeal via Esip-documentation <esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org><br><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 3:38</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PM<br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ted Habermann <tedhabermann@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Megan Orlando <meganorlando@esipfed.org>, ESIP Documentation LIst <esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org>, hartten@colorado.edu <hartten@colorado.edu><br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Esip-documentation] Question about how to cite ACDD<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Agree with all that. No formal doc beyond the web page has ever been created.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Maybe esip-documentation could create a DOI? And associated metadata. Would solve all sorts of issues. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">John<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Jun 25, 2024, at 11:35, Ted Habermann via Esip-documentation <esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Megan et al.,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I would go with “Web Page” and Documentation Cluster, but I am far from an expert. I suspect that if the URL is correct, that is all that is important, but I know that is not right!<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Does <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/www.grammarly.com/citations/apa/wikipedia__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV13Qw6IBA$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.grammarly.com/citations/apa/wikipedia</a> help?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ted<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><Logo - Light - Better Text Below Logo copy.png><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dr. Ted Habermann</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: CenturyGothic, serif;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/metadatagamechangers.com/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV3HkxyFQw$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-decoration: none;">Metadata Game Changer</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">GRID: </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">grid.510301.6</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ORCID: </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV2tZ1pz-Q$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">0000-0003-3585-6733</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/ted-habermann-141b6764/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV3usPTebw$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">LinkedIn</a></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: CenturyGothic, serif;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:ted@metadatagamechangers.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Jun 25, 2024, at 2:42</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PM, Megan Orlando via Esip-documentation <esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Someone asked how best to cite the Attribute Convention for Data Discovery 1-3 (<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV0PGkv9QA$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3</a>). Since I know this list includes some of the creators/maintainers, what do you recommend? Does a formal citation exist? Leslie, copied here, asked specifically if it is considered a “Web Page”, an “Electronic Article” or something else? And is the ESIP Documentation Cluster considered the author?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for any advice,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Megan<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span class="gmailsignatureprefix"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">--</span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Megan Orlando<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">ESIP Community Director<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="mailto:meganorlando@esipfed.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">meganorlando@esipfed.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Esip-documentation mailing list<br>To start a new topic: Esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org<br>To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-documentation__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV11NNsjUQ$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-documentation</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Esip-documentation mailing list<br>To start a new topic: Esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org<br>To unsubscribe and manage prefs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-documentation__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV11NNsjUQ$" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-documentation</a></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>