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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you Ted! I’ll double check the reference in the document.
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 7:27</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AM<br>
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<b>Cc: </b>Armstrong, Edward M (US 398P) <edward.m.armstrong@jpl.nasa.gov>, John Graybeal <jbgraybeal@sonic.net>, ESIP Documentation LIst <esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org>, hartten@colorado.edu <hartten@colorado.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] [Esip-documentation] Question about how to cite ACDD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thank you all for the input!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 09:28 Ted Habermann <<a href="mailto:tedhabermann@gmail.com">tedhabermann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Good to hear your voice.. I think this might be a smother URL (no spaces): <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!Mi1I5ILnOuvc23dRPfCNcS0TYyxUEGadRrUpcFfZBYRgZenaIIeM9NnVKZH7AEe0zHkUFXe5WBS2bknx9xOGc9BTgkUZ9qEPItbM$" target="_blank">https://wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ORCID: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!Mi1I5ILnOuvc23dRPfCNcS0TYyxUEGadRrUpcFfZBYRgZenaIIeM9NnVKZH7AEe0zHkUFXe5WBS2bknx9xOGc9BTgkUZ9kiBfFco$" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">0000-0003-3585-6733</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ESIP Documentation Cluster, "Attribute Conventions for Data Discovery," 5 September 2023. [Online]. Available:<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!Mi1I5ILnOuvc23dRPfCNcS0TYyxUEGadRrUpcFfZBYRgZenaIIeM9NnVKZH7AEe0zHkUFXe5WBS2bknx9xOGc9BTgkUZ9hnSlZfS$" target="_blank">http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/</a> Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery.
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 3:38</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Ted Habermann <<a href="mailto:tedhabermann@gmail.com" target="_blank">tedhabermann@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Megan Orlando <<a href="mailto:meganorlando@esipfed.org" target="_blank">meganorlando@esipfed.org</a>>, ESIP Documentation LIst <<a href="mailto:esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org</a>>,
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