<div dir="auto">Thank you all for the input!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 09:28 Ted Habermann <<a href="mailto:tedhabermann@gmail.com">tedhabermann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space">Ed,<div><br></div><div>Good to hear your voice.. I think this might be a smother URL (no spaces): <a href="https://wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://wiki.esipfed.org/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_1-3</a></div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br id="m_-6073288349363787406lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
<span><img alt="Logo - Light - Better Text Below Logo copy.png" src="cid:6CFDA8B2-30D4-4487-A748-CAE7ABB83DF9"></span><div style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="CenturyGothic"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><br><br>Dr. Ted Habermann<br></span></font><a href="http://metadatagamechangers.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Metadata Game Changer</a></div><div style="font-family:"Century Gothic";font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px"><font face="Calibri">GRID: </font></span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">grid.510301.6</span><span style="font-style:normal"><font face="Calibri"><br><span style="font-size:12px">ORCID: </span></font><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12px" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">0000-0003-3585-6733</a></span></font></div><div style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ted-habermann-141b6764/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">LinkedIn</a><font face="CenturyGothic"><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:12px"><br></span></font><a href="mailto:ted@metadatagamechangers.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Armstrong, Edward M (US 398P) <<a href="mailto:edward.m.armstrong@jpl.nasa.gov" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">edward.m.armstrong@jpl.nasa.gov</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:CenturyGothic;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:4pt">This reference is in the NASA Data Product Development Guide;<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:4pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:767px"><tbody><tr><td width="6%" valign="top" style="width:47.8125px;padding:0.75pt"><p style="margin:6pt 0in;line-height:16.866667px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN">[80]<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="92%" valign="top" style="width:709.203125px;padding:0.75pt"><p style="margin:6pt 0in;line-height:16.866667px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN">ESIP Documentation Cluster, "Attribute Conventions for Data Discovery," 5 September 2023. [Online]. Available:<a href="http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/</a><span> </span>Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery. [Accessed 12 Janaury 2024].<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:4pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div id="m_-6073288349363787406mail-editor-reference-message-container"><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Esip-documentation <<a href="mailto:esip-documentation-bounces@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">esip-documentation-bounces@lists.esipfed.org</a>> on behalf of John Graybeal via Esip-documentation <<a href="mailto:esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org</a>><br><b>Date:<span> </span></b>Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 3:38</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt">PM<br><b>To:<span> </span></b>Ted Habermann <<a href="mailto:tedhabermann@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tedhabermann@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:<span> </span></b>Megan Orlando <<a href="mailto:meganorlando@esipfed.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">meganorlando@esipfed.org</a>>, ESIP Documentation LIst <<a href="mailto:esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:hartten@colorado.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hartten@colorado.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:hartten@colorado.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hartten@colorado.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:<span> </span></b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Esip-documentation] Question about how to cite ACDD<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Agree with all that. No formal doc beyond the web page has ever been created.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Maybe esip-documentation could create a DOI? And associated metadata. Would solve all sorts of issues. <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">John<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Jun 25, 2024, at 11:35, Ted Habermann via Esip-documentation <<a href="mailto:esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span><span style="font-size:12pt">Megan et al.,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">I would go with “Web Page” and Documentation Cluster, but I am far from an expert. I suspect that if the URL is correct, that is all that is important, but I know that is not right!<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Does <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/www.grammarly.com/citations/apa/wikipedia__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV13Qw6IBA$" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.grammarly.com/citations/apa/wikipedia</a> help?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Ted<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><Logo - Light - Better Text Below Logo copy.png><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dr. Ted Habermann</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:CenturyGothic,serif"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/metadatagamechangers.com/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV3HkxyFQw$" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;text-decoration:none">Metadata Game Changer</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">GRID: </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">grid.510301.6</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">ORCID: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/orcid.org/0000-0003-3585-6733__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV2tZ1pz-Q$" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">0000-0003-3585-6733</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/ted-habermann-141b6764/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PN69ZS4y5HbcPglU5I_J_oPcZUrrNDyUiA-5dxN4zNjTST1JoFJfIyqM6fdCovTfr37BHC9wrUVA1qQxVxcTuvrwD7duZ5gvsvlEMV3usPTebw$" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">LinkedIn</a></span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:CenturyGothic,serif"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:ted@metadatagamechangers.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ted@metadatagamechangers.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Jun 25, 2024, at 2:42</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt">PM, Megan Orlando via Esip-documentation <<a href="mailto:esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">esip-documentation@lists.esipfed.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