[Esip-preserve] Some Suggestions on Provenance Work

alicebarkstrom at frontier.com alicebarkstrom at frontier.com
Tue Sep 21 15:14:29 EDT 2010


In my view, it would be useful to summarize this
work at the January meeting.  It would be even
more useful to begin to prepare a formal paper
(transient slide collections are not as useful 
in the long run).

In addition, it would be helpful to put together
a suggested work plan for this activity.  In a
volunteer organization, it's much more effective
to try to do something than to just complain about
inaction.

Bruce B.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John F. Moses (GSFC-5860)" <john.f.moses at nasa.gov>
To: "Curt Tilmes (GSFC-6145)" <curt.tilmes at nasa.gov>
Cc: rramachandran at itsc.uah.edu, esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:03:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Esip-preserve] Some Suggestions on Provenance Work

We have a small group currently working with Nimbus to recover data from 7-9 track tapes and film - bringing it to 'EOSDIS standards';  Nimbus 2 is available online at GES DISC and searchable through WIST/ECHO.

There are earlier TIROS series datasets, some we have/some NCDC has - a mix of film and tape.

USGS and NGDC have been working with HCMM (circa 1978) data;  USGS EROS will archive - some is already online/searchable thru Earth Explorer.

I think it would be good to see how current provenance efforts cover issues that come out of this heritage work - to help round out the efforts and add relevance. 
-john

John F Moses
EOSDIS Science Operations, ESDIS Project Code 423
BLD 32, E208B
Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD 20771
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Email              john.f.moses at nasa.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org [mailto:esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org] On Behalf Of Curt Tilmes
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:26 PM
Cc: rramachandran at itsc.uah.edu; esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
Subject: Re: [Esip-preserve] Some Suggestions on Provenance Work

On 09/20/10 12:00, Moses, John F. (GSFC-5860) wrote:
> Any hope for tools to reverse engineer what we have now - derive
> dependencies and structure of stuff in 'dumpsters'?

I think many of the heritage missions are still "live" in that groups
(such as my own) are still reprocessing very old data.  I think the
measurement vs. mission focus helps with this.  It may be in the
interest of various MEASURES projects working on long term trends and
cross-mission datasets to bring the old data they depend on and use as
inputs up to date.

It may be worth identifying older valuable data sets that have lost
their stewards or been otherwise orphaned and give someone a charge to
work with them?

Curt
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