[Esip-preserve] time to update the citation guidelines?

Mon Jun 20 16:17:56 EDT 2016

Hi Kerstin,

Of course the long tail is of relevance!  So, thanks!

Ruth

> On Jun 20, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Kerstin A Lehnert via Esip-preserve <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
> 
> You can find examples in IEDA DOIs if the long tail is of relevance.
> 
> Kerstin
> 
> On 6/20/16 15:45 PM, ruth.duerr3--- via Esip-preserve wrote:
>> Great!  Ditto re choosing a NASA citation...
>> 
>> Ruth
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Hampapuram Ramapriyan < <mailto:hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com <mailto:hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ruth,
>>> For NASA Earth science data the following might of interest: https://earthdata.nasa.gov/earth-observation-data/data-citations-acknowledgements <https://earthdata.nasa.gov/earth-observation-data/data-citations-acknowledgements> and https://earthdata.nasa.gov/open-data-and-the-importance-of-data-citations-the-nasa-eosdis-perspective <https://earthdata.nasa.gov/open-data-and-the-importance-of-data-citations-the-nasa-eosdis-perspective> from a general “policy” point of view. I can provide a couple of specific citation examples as well. Again, we are basing this work on the ESIP guidelines, pointed to at the bottom of the page led to by the first link above.
>>> Rama.
>>>  
>>> From: Esip-preserve [mailto:esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org>] On Behalf Of Ruth Duerr via Esip-preserve
>>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:35 PM
>>> To: Jeff de La Beaujardiere - NOAA
>>> Cc: esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Esip-preserve] time to update the citation guidelines?
>>>  
>>> Thanks Jeff!  I am sure we will use at least one example from NOAA (want to get a variety of examples from a variety of places).
>>>  
>>> And obviously the NOAA Directive should be on our reference list (if it isn’t already)...
>>>  
>>> Ruth
>>>  
>>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Jeff de La Beaujardiere - NOAA < <mailto:jeff.delabeaujardiere at noaa.gov>jeff.delabeaujardiere at noaa.gov <mailto:jeff.delabeaujardiere at noaa.gov>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Feel free to use any of the following as real-world examples:
>>>  <http://search.datacite.org/ui?q=10.7289&fq=resourceType_facet:%22Dataset%22>http://search.datacite.org/ui?q=10.7289&fq=resourceType_facet:%22Dataset%22 <http://search.datacite.org/ui?q=10.7289&fq=resourceType_facet:%22Dataset%22>
>>>  
>>> Also feel free to borrow any ideas or text from the NOAA Data Citation Directive, which was inspired by the original ESIP guidelines:  <https://nosc.noaa.gov/EDMC/PD.DC.php>https://nosc.noaa.gov/EDMC/PD.DC.php <https://nosc.noaa.gov/EDMC/PD.DC.php>
>>>  
>>> -Jeff DLB
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jeff de La Beaujardiere, PhD 
>>> NOAA Data Management Architect 
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>>>  
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Parsons, Mark via Esip-preserve <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
>>> Yes. Probably a bit overdue. It would be nice to have real world examples instead of “The Foo Data Set” too. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> cheers,
>>>  
>>> -m. 
>>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 13:04, Ruth Duerr via Esip-preserve < <mailto:esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org>esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all, 
>>>  
>>> I’ve been fielding questions from all directions on use of DOI’s for data sets, etc.  I think it is time to update the ESIP guidelines with better identifier information.  Anyone interested in helping with that?  Is it a good idea?  I think this is still a moving field; but I do believe that there are better and worse ways of moving forward and would like ESIP to promulgate the better ways…
>>>  
>>> Thoughts?
>>>  
>>> Ruth
>>>  
>>> "I have met some pretty crappy “scientists” at institutions who get paid well, but don’t do science and wouldn’t know it if it pooped on their feet. In contrast, many people who have investigated some of the most pressing and interesting issues of the last couple of centuries did it out of curiosity, excitement, worry, or desperation.”
>>>  
>>> - Fraser Shilling in email to  <mailto:citsci-discussion-l at list.cornell.edu>citsci-discussion-l at list.cornell.edu <mailto:citsci-discussion-l at list.cornell.edu> discussion list
>>>  
>>> Ruth Duerr
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