[Esip-preserve] Recommendations for affordable DOI minting for commercial geospatial data

Wed May 19 04:42:49 EDT 2021

Thanks Matt and Daniella.

@Evan: It sounds like NCAR may be a suitable option, if not, let us know
and we can explore other options available.

Regards,
Matt

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On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:16 AM Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu> wrote:

> Hi Evan,
> I work at NCAR. If these data were generated in partnership with NCAR
> staff, they may be eligible to be archived at NCAR. Your NCAR colleagues
> would hopefully be aware of our internal process for making data archiving
> requests, but you can have them contact datahelp at ucar.edu with any
> questions.  Note, depending on the size of the data (e.g. approaching 1 Tb
> or higher), there would potentially need to be a discussion about costs if
> you go the NCAR route.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt
>
> Matthew Mayernik, Ph.D.
> Project Scientist & Research Data Services Specialist
> NCAR Library
> National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR)
> Boulder, CO
> mayernik at ucar.edu
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:06 PM Daniella Lowenberg via Esip-preserve <
> esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Evan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jumping in here as I can represent a couple of these different options
>> that Mark referenced. Dryad is a great home if you want to store and
>> publish subsets of these data (and receive DOIs) but they will be publicly
>> available with a CC0 waiver of license so I am not sure if this will work
>> for your use case. Zenodo is similar in that it’s for public data and not
>> just an archive.
>>
>>
>>
>> I noticed on your website that you partner with NCAR who are DataCite
>> members -  perhaps you could use their services to receive DataCite DOIs
>> for your collections? I am cc’ing Matt Buys at DataCite who can answer more
>> questions directly on accessible cost models or partners you can work with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Daniella
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *California Digital Library*
>>
>> Daniella Lowenberg | Dryad Product Manager
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>> *From: *Esip-preserve <esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org> on
>> behalf of Mark Parsons via Esip-preserve <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
>> >
>> *Reply-To: *Mark Parsons <parsonsm.work at icloud.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, May 14, 2021 at 3:54 PM
>> *To: *Evan Burgess <evan.burgess at airbornesnowobservatories.com>
>> *Cc: *"esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org" <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Esip-preserve] Recommendations for affordable DOI
>> minting for commercial geospatial data
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, it sounds like you are responsible for archiving some of your data.
>> If they are smallish and fairly static, you could deposit them in a
>> generalist repository like Zenodo or Dryad, which will provide a DOI.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are committed to being the archive, you might enquire with
>> California Digital Library. They can register DOIs with DataCite and they
>> might provide the service for low to no cost since you are supporting the
>> State of California.
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> -m.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 14, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Evan Burgess <
>> evan.burgess at airbornesnowobservatories.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark and Amber,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much for these thoughts, this is all very helpful!  We are kind of
>> in a weird space as a small for-profit startup built off a NASA JPL
>> research program.  We have a few lingering NASA projects that are firmly in
>> the academic space, these data are already or will be going to a DAAC.
>> However, moving forward, most of our data will be entirely separate from
>> those academic/NASA channels.  It will be paid for by state or private
>> agencies, with an agreement that the data can be made public.  Most
>> companies would probably keep this data private, but as a public benefit
>> corporation we really want the data to benefit all interested parties (of
>> which there are lots including researchers and other non-paying agencies).
>> Our plan has been to manage the data archive ourselves, currently the data
>> is hosted on a public s3 bucket and linked to on our website rather
>> crudely.  Our interest for adding a DOI is partially a desire to follow
>> best practice but also so our company can be more better attributed when
>> the data is used.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 4:04 PM Mark Parsons <parsonsm.work at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Evan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good on you for wanting your data to be referenced properly!
>>
>>
>>
>> Is ASO the actual archive for the data or are they ulimately archived by
>> NASA or another sponsor? Whoever mints the DOI should recognize that they
>> are taking on a responsibility to maintain that DOI. That doesn’t
>> necessarily mean that they must maintain the data, but they must ensure
>> that the DOI continually links to the current state of the data (whether it
>> has been moved, upgraded, deleted, etc). Once you determine who has that
>> responsibility it will be easier to determine which DOI service to use. I
>> suspect you may be able to tap into a NASA relationship with DataCite.
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> -m.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 13, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Evan Burgess via Esip-preserve <
>> esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I work for Airborne Snow Observatories
>> <https://www.airbornesnowobservatories.com/>.  We release a lot of
>> public geospatial data on snow water resources in California and Colorado.
>> These data consist primarily of gridded geospatial products and pdfs with
>> discussion and analyses of these products.  The data is used by both
>> academia and operational water management agencies in real-time and is
>> available on our website.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are looking into our options for minting DOIs for each of these
>> datasets.  We originally looked at DataCite but found it to be
>> prohibitively expensive.  I'm curious if anyone has suggestions for DOI
>> minting options that are more cost effective and appropriate for this type
>> of data and use case.
>>
>> We recently have looked into Crossref
>> <https://www.crossref.org/services/content-registration/>, which seems
>> much cheaper but I'm unsure if disadvantages may be lurking.  Any advice on
>> the matter would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
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