<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body dir="auto">
<div dir="ltr"></div>
<div dir="ltr">Haha, nothing like saying hi to yourself!! One of those days :) Thank you, Dan!!</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:12 PM, Adam Shepherd <ashepherd@whoi.edu> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr"></div>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Adam, thanks so much for the references here!! </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">The main driver here is that in the geosciences, we have some Time Series science initiatives going back some decades, and are looking to 1) elevate the Time Series activities themselves for discovery, 2) deacribe the collection events within
these initiatives and 3) logically grip and correlate datasets generated from these events. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Piet Luigi Buttigieg had already done some work in this space and has presented using the EventSeries type to help us describe the science initiative. So this looks like a better fit than my initial idea. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">But these data commons resources will be useful in helping us work out how these time series datasets might be used (I think), so I’m excited to take a look. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Thank you for chiming in and engaging with us!!! Happy to report back what we land on if useful.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Cheers, Adam</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Mar 17, 2024, at 6:44 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<div>Could I encourage you to take a look at the approach that DataCommons.org have been using for a while? The basic vocabulary for it is in Schema.org but you'll probably find <a href="https://github.com/datacommonsorg/data/blob/master/docs/representing_statistics.md" originalsrc="https://github.com/datacommonsorg/data/blob/master/docs/representing_statistics.md" shash="z3ca+S/PNThBzJp/EEVOBMKdx8328XfyBFBWrLCpc0V73cB+4GQxSvA1OQBB4kuhexIFP0xP5cjoPM0M1Ph5lBYsXLG6Khkwb9UTLD1zykvvr539Y4f09broN1O4mGZeNX3OHk5sZe1wrmDrNWQNfrdN56AdN5DVHaLWpYfQbp8=">https://github.com/datacommonsorg/data/blob/master/docs/representing_statistics.md</a>
a good entry point. That repo uses MCF which is in fact RDF's ancestor; if you can read Turtle it should be obvious enough. There is a lot of data in <a href="https://github.com/datacommonsorg/data/tree/master/scripts" originalsrc="https://github.com/datacommonsorg/data/tree/master/scripts" shash="iumg9zvd5RW5W5tD2nkojVyXxp3+5LFGsSNe1iKkJssyELxppCbXbgmHGBOmJ6NEu1IeyuKQ6ZzbbSMJMiA8s2RrG0DW3RPVjoyRsjT+KxkXqW4PpmIDYISefZawa69FhwixZEoRk0l5oHSu4N3CcI6L0uBBStf/g6CskWUL5vo=">https://github.com/datacommonsorg/data/tree/master/scripts</a>
- most typically a combination of tabular input data plus a template file that maps into the schema markup to describe an observation of a statistical variable in a place and at a time.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'd be interested to hear whether what you're trying to do could plug in alongside these efforts in some way...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>cheers,</div>
<div><br>
Dan</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 13:50, Adam Shepherd via Esip-schema-dot-org <<a href="mailto:esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org">esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Any interest here in pursuing the definition of a new <a href="http://schema.org/" originalsrc="http://schema.org/" shash="Ebfz4NzgXYEuySB7pAIXfuLD66j7kA67DTYA6+0j6Ajnd4KOXoz7QxmOuIfL/8tz1YV8ijNd9r0z8cYwF+UhkZTcrXOqxLYypIMs5rkW1TuIlWKNG6xwHmkfS8ta/WI7/41rdOcR8YH6QgyL4TO6ZjhbPZpeGH3Jub2krCsgWyg=" target="_blank">schema.org</a> type
for Time Series Data that would be subclass of <a href="https://schema.org/CreativeWorkSeries" originalsrc="https://schema.org/CreativeWorkSeries" shash="bRS8SLCYMRan3p3mp4UOIXE3xiXZm1lUMVleupuk3djNZ452ZhvOyZ5ycJw3Qp9hRB65PviaAf29r6125o7PNtGhslqYRQve/+0gLZmK/JH6ue5rDxTgT/c7pMJ+2hOp5uBxRd2qjEaexJPlPYNNjuV+7Fvl8/2Hokv7G5YzmPo=" target="_blank">https://schema.org/CreativeWorkSeries</a>
<div><br>
I'm interested in having ways to describe:<br>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>• changes in collection/observation methods over time<br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>• describing various people and operating organziations and roles as they change over time<br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>• individual datasets within a time series and their relationships to each other<br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>• and whatever other use cases/challenges the data community has seen here (this is the prompt to contribute!)<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Feel free to contribute interest/ideas here in the notes space for our next telecon on Thursday, March 28th @ 2:30pm ET</div>
<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIlDVnKeocO1E_SSbNaldv0avORfGFdmYDNk_3ub6ik/edit#heading=h.n3stdrckyw1n" originalsrc="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIlDVnKeocO1E_SSbNaldv0avORfGFdmYDNk_3ub6ik/edit#heading=h.n3stdrckyw1n" shash="gyYOWdodBLydxEPm+Piq4CWVBKqVzle4k2NN0hdNd0IQK/YirbWXoHcyx9C7AzqkAIktRECwg9o1jViQbw9wbKN74ctW0DM616zyYGZ7fiulwLykpi7hOZd1Mp9crmWyIs1SX568KynZXP1M2xAEN7APATSSH50n/n/oyjKmHG4=" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIlDVnKeocO1E_SSbNaldv0avORfGFdmYDNk_3ub6ik/edit#heading=h.n3stdrckyw1n</a></div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
There are some useful conceptual ideas we can borrow from some of the existing subclasses like<br>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>• <a href="https://schema.org/RadioSeries" originalsrc="https://schema.org/RadioSeries" shash="d/sydUEA8ed85cdvP3ZR2/wEPxqNs7Dy+JPulRasskxRZjJGaswq7YMUBVDWHFbjJvZRb6/ao/KcPXTxJ+pD3e9UhcYbMGfhfuScCqzrsFItkcib/lvouI4WZjexA/AzWTYMH2QUwZVnG0Qu3EcTstRNlPdtsZBt23XvQ30LgyI=" target="_blank">
https://schema.org/RadioSeries</a> <br>
</div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>• <a href="https://schema.org/VideoGameSeries" originalsrc="https://schema.org/VideoGameSeries" shash="t3seHS5x70aLM6jIu/voNkQy4Xnou7KuK/ZuSC/tjlsgV7Bs2IQn3mJwfsLoigOSPEZQxeJINHks4dqsmjkbymriyXCgIwNznSkBTFgL8V+h4pEGcAo5o0XBWT/AKmvkf3D+OEgJjvPNAyCi4XJuTbG6A9mpu3FuvFfFAksdilo=" target="_blank">
https://schema.org/VideoGameSeries</a></div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers, Adam</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
</div>
<div>Adam Shepherd<br>
Co-Chair, ESIP <a href="http://schema.org/" originalsrc="http://schema.org/" shash="MhHsyLtVwRS7ZlBMhAmsiaxXxAXVCL6xw27vdFwu2KVO+e7kbeK/hixbj/YDkx3lsgYKAoykH6T8B3XaUMxYafJLbpRPMHd12K80SO6X3hxWKOSfEyw4V7RW7H90V60AJ6rqWEeqO6UHTT9zRBvVd8PqlZ8adi7TW9fF7OjIxqI=" target="_blank">
schema.org</a> Cluster</div>
<div><br>
Mailing <a href="mailto:List%3Aesip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">
List:esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org</a></div>
<div>Wiki: <a href="http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Schema.org_Cluster" originalsrc="http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Schema.org_Cluster" shash="LallAtbLTHPHN/Yw80o5b7EWsmBTij1fH2XOtJysNM0WZjuD6s9B2I/Ar3JMHNcoiQPodzlnP0fngIXoMeI1oh/ZOwa8c7rjjYM1+Z74rlekXb5lc1ME6hIv5aZk7Y8RU7swvg9DC5W02wM0OLzLLNirc2Uwduv7fwM6LJggBH0=" target="_blank">http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Schema.org_Cluster</a><br>
ESIP Slack: <a href="https://esip-all.slack.com/messages/C8EACC8KT" originalsrc="https://esip-all.slack.com/messages/C8EACC8KT" shash="ZbSN03MmiYWCDiO7PScidz/hodz3qVU0H1RKZY1/zAnkh/Km76mr5S5oOoV1wJQgQ5RuHybv8jstadL6E2snkjM5xRn/gtQmWvgKauVbysX7bFe6e0mZMX1DathGD0C/ZMytc78NyVcRxgwARMyYjCOc4b2ahUtEfniDEY0iXbU=" target="_blank">
https://esip-all.slack.com/messages/C8EACC8KT</a></div>
<div>Twitter: @ScienceOnSchema</div>
<div><br>
Zoom: <a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84043422486?pwd=bGM4YkFyMkFGSW1FZG5yaFRNaGNvdz09" originalsrc="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84043422486?pwd=bGM4YkFyMkFGSW1FZG5yaFRNaGNvdz09" shash="XuaGaKkSSdec3UX0uzFLiPq2M/w6+RtCGEUgWZ6CIuXbQKmxecMlc0goeeEuIGtoqb974FOTx8awyODJQ3I+JHElnF4f74VbX7fsCxdGKAZaFptE0QUAfQbPNA8sf2uERaF9HeUCzbniEnfXvM/p7kveZj6yvs1UgRZ1c0mketE=" target="_blank">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84043422486?pwd=bGM4YkFyMkFGSW1FZG5yaFRNaGNvdz09</a><br>
Meeting ID: 840 4342 2486<br>
Passcode: 940272<br>
<br>
4th Thursday at 2:30pmET<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Esip-schema-dot-org mailing list<br>
To start a new topic: <a href="mailto:Esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank">
Esip-schema-dot-org@lists.esipfed.org</a><br>
To unsubscribe and manage prefs: <a href="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-schema-dot-org" originalsrc="https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-schema-dot-org" shash="r8lnJKGfx5Y02OvwqL0/BlQyhqfAmNlq6DxZcQFQebZF/Otj0BrhalDflQgUxSMd7wj/0dopqUQ/odSjyVrRsCSq3f31p9S8GeOnQ4LgoZFYUE959osHMfZKfTx4Ou7ZZm5APjS4syKJhL6boLQ+X6T4SgLV/4L53GAYowg7/B4=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-schema-dot-org</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>