[Esip-sciencesoftware] Software Citation Presentation - FEEDBACK Request

[Nicholas Weber]

Sounds good to me.
Erin, do you have any ideas for someone that might call in and update us on
GeoSoft's work w/ Earthcube?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Erin Robinson <erinrobinson at esipfed.org>
wrote:

>  Hi All -
>
>  The feedback was super helpful and I think this talk went pretty well.
> Nic, I loved your thoughts and I even 'wow-d' the crowd by going into
> r-studio and doing the citation command.
>
>  One thing missing - obvious in hindsight - were a few additional
> examples of software citation.
>
>  Perhaps on our next call we can start to discuss what software citation
> guidelines would look like. It would be great to 'socialize' guidelines
> this summer and have the ESIP assembly potentially approve them at the
> January business meeting.
>
>  Thanks!
> E
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Nicholas Weber <nmweber at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Erin.
>>
>>  Few other small things - none of these are all that important based on
>> what you've already got!
>>
>> 1.
>>
>> From my perspective the most important element of citation to software is
>> that whomever wants access should  be able to actually get their hands on
>> the code (in as few steps as possible). That can get complicated with a
>> paradigm of "software papers" - So, if someone publishes a software paper,
>> and wants that cited.... they could also ask that a (persistent) link to
>> the repository is put in a footnote, or in the acknowledgement section.
>> Makes for double the effort - but may be worth thinking about...
>>
>> 2.
>>
>>  Related but not necessarily about citaitons...
>>
>>  Software citations do not generally include information about the
>> license that goes along with the code - but putting that information in a
>> repository's read me file, or another form of metadata that describes the
>> repository is an important element in facilitating accurate reuse.
>>
>> 3.
>>
>>  In some cases citations, and licenses can be made machine actionable as
>> a part of the distribution package itself.
>>
>>  For instance, Scott Chamberlin gives these instructions "You can get
>> citation information for bold in R doing citation(package = 'bold')"
>>
>>  See https://github.com/ropensci/bold for full description. In general I
>> tend to appreciate the instructions and different approaches to citing
>> software from the ROpenSci projects. Might be worth poking around for more
>> examples.
>>
>>  my .02 cents.
>>
>>  Good luck.
>>  -Nic
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Erin Robinson via Esip-sciencesoftware <
>> esip-sciencesoftware at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yep - Good thoughts. Thanks all for these suggestions.
>>>
>>>  The intended take away is around citing and attributing software as
>>> part of a bigger 2-day workshop. Still good to mention Software Carpentry
>>> training opps.
>>>
>>>  Thanks-
>>> E
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Christopher Lenhardt <
>>> clenhardt at renci.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Erin:
>>>>
>>>>  Not sure what your intended take away is for the audience, but if you
>>>> have time you might de-emphasize the ‘why is this important’ and some of
>>>> the middle content in favor of expanding the end which is more of the ‘what
>>>> can you do’ part.  I would think the early career folks would be most
>>>> interested in the ‘what you can do part’.  You might include suggestions
>>>> like Software Carpentry, the Open Science for Synthesis Training, just to
>>>> name a couple of additional ideas.
>>>>
>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>  Chris
>>>>
>>>>   From: "Esip-sciencesoftware at lists.esipfed.org" <
>>>> Esip-sciencesoftware at lists.esipfed.org>
>>>> Reply-To: Erin Robinson <erinrobinson at esipfed.org>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 11:48 AM
>>>> To: "Esip-sciencesoftware at lists.esipfed.org" <
>>>> Esip-sciencesoftware at lists.esipfed.org>
>>>> Subject: [Esip-sciencesoftware] Software Citation Presentation -
>>>> FEEDBACK Request
>>>>
>>>>   Hi All -
>>>>
>>>>  This week I am at the GeoSoft Early Career meeting. I was asked to
>>>> speak on software citation.
>>>>
>>>>  Attached are some draft slides. Would love your thoughts and input in
>>>> this presentation. I am just the messenger here.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks-
>>>> E
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  Nic Weber
>> http://nicwe.be/r
>> Ph.D Candidate
>> the iSchool @ University of Illinois; Urbana Champaign
>>
>
>


-- 
Nic Weber
http://nicwe.be/r
Ph.D Candidate
the iSchool @ University of Illinois; Urbana Champaign
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