[esip-semantictech] Working towards science-on-schema.org as an ESIP Standard/Guideline

[Ruth Duerr]

Hi All,

I heartedly agree with the concept of having the schema.org <http://schema.org/> guidelines endorsed by ESIP.  Having the citation guidelines endorsed by ESIP spurred change in agencies and eventually the world; so personally I think that doing this will drive change in a positive way.

I also like Adam’s 3 actions, though I note that the result of #1 doesn’t have to be too formal.  The citation guidelines model is simply that when they get out of date enough that someone has a strong enough desire or need to fix them and drums up support for that in the data stewardship committee, it happens….  In that case, through teleconferences with interested parties (in this case they are weekly).  That way all the sticking points get rigorous and focussed discussion in a condensed period of time.

My two cents,

Ruth

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Adam Shepherd via esip-semanticweb <esip-semanticweb at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, 
> 
> I agree with Lewis that working towards an ESIP-blessed output (such as the Citation Guideline) is a good idea for the schema.org <http://schema.org/> guidelines (https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org <https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org>) that came out of EarthCube's Project 418. If an ESIP-blessed guideline is one of our committee's shared goals, then I offer a couple of strategic actions we might focus on to achieve that goal:
> 
> 1) Agreement on a governance framework for making updates to the guidelines. (I know...as a developer, I hate this part too. But I believe even if we spent a few moments documenting how we will make decisions, update the guidelines, and procedures/workflows for discussing ideas, it can help us down the road as all of our capabilities to volunteer effort ebb and flow. We could keep it simple an adopt existing governance strategies, and alter it as we move forward.) A peek at the TWC Semantic Web Methodology (https://tw.rpi.edu/web/doc/TWC_SemanticWebMethodology <https://tw.rpi.edu/web/doc/TWC_SemanticWebMethodology>) might help us think about how we plan to govern the guidelines. 
> 
> 2) A review of the current documentation to ensure that what happened in a short, tiny vacuum of P418 is best for the community. 
> 
> 3) Work towards improving how we communicate these guidelines to the public. Bioschemas.org <http://bioschemas.org/> is a good example of what we could achieve for the geosciences as an external extension to schema.org <http://schema.org/>. Having external extensions published with consistent URLs that follow the Best Practices for Publishing RDF Vocabularies (https://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/ <https://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/>) akin to what schema.org <http://schema.org/> does (https://schema.org/docs/developers.html <https://schema.org/docs/developers.html>). 
> 
> There are  more ideas of what to focus on, but thankfully we are a team and you all have those ideas on your minds. I look forward to hearing them!
> 
> Best, Adam
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> On 1/17/19 4:21 PM, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (398M) via esip-semanticweb wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> At the end of this week’s meeting, I spoke with Adam, Doug (very briefly) and Chuck and we ended up talking along the lines of creating a formal ESIP Standard/Guideline from science-on-schema.org [0]. This effort would essentially shadow what has been done for the ACDD [1] and Software and Services Citation Guidelines and Examples.
>> The purpose in doing this is as follows
>> It gives the work at [0] more credibility and ensures that the content is peer reviewed by our community at large
>> It brings together people who care about earth science extensions to schema.org. There are actually quite a few of us out there…
>> It would be a huge step towards data providers actually implementing schema.org and associated extensions within their discovery and access interfaces.
>> It enables us to focus the community voice such that we can approach commercial search providers with the aim of us continuing the work which has been done to date in this space. If we encourage and succeed in having search giants use this stuff, then it is a HUGE win for us all.
>> It enables us to go to the W3C Schema.org community group [3], build relationships and create the path for us either proposing [4] a hosted extension or external extension to the schema.org project.
>>  
>> @Beth, Doug, Adam, Chuck, etc. what are your thoughts? Anyone else please chime in as well.
>> Thanks folks,
>> Lewis
>>  
>> [0] https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org <https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org>
>> [1] http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery <http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery>
>> [2] https://bit.ly/2Cv6PD5 <https://bit.ly/2Cv6PD5>
>> [3] https://www.w3.org/community/schemaorg/ <https://www.w3.org/community/schemaorg/>
>> [4] https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg#proposing-schemas <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg#proposing-schemas>
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