[Esip-sustainabledm] Fwd: ESIP Sustainability Cluster ESIP meeting, drafts, deadline is April 10, Monday!

Fri Apr 7 04:28:59 EDT 2017

Thanks, Margaret!  Though, I’m not seeing a link for ‘A’.   Also, I do not have have permissions to view the docs referenced, and have asked for permission.   I await further info.

If Beagrie is willing to come, I would very much like to have a working session with him focused on ROI determination per se.   Though, perhaps I’m the only one of our group interested in that, as no one else has expressed an interest.   ??

He may also be a fine plenary speaker, but the focus of that talk would be different.  But maybe ESIP could get two birds with one stone?    

I would like to support the report back to NSF for the EAGER grant, if that’s appropriate, but I am unclear on those needs and requirements.    Regarding the white paper, I’m not yet seeing the conclusions to report and am unclear on its point or focus.   Am I missing something?

Btw, here at RDA I mentioned this effort in the context of sustainability of virtual research environments.   That got me hooked up with folks in Australia who have hired Houghton, the other author of the JISC report, to do an evaluation for them.   They are also very interested in this topic.   I’m considering trying to organize either an Interest Group or some other group around this question here in RDA.   fwiw…

Anne

On 4/6/17, 12:44 AM, "Esip-sustainabledm on behalf of esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org" <esip-sustainabledm-bounces at lists.esipfed.org on behalf of esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

>Hi all -
>Several things:
>A. Here is a link to the draft ESIP session abstract:
>
>What we have in the notes from March  was a working session for the RoI 
>white paper. This does not quite fit in with inviting Beagrie to speak. 
>So this draft has 3 options:
>1: a working meeting to make progress on the white paper.
>
>2: Speaker-oriented session, in which we invite an outside expert, 
>Beagrie. Presumes we have funds to bring him here.
>
>3: Working session to demonstrate code for text mining (e.g., Keith 
>Maull’s tools, as described in Tempe:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iRjsro7MtVgbSYYvqgBpFi5EFoDGhxFx4tudjH0CF-s/edit
>
>Another thought is that we suggest Beagrie for a keynote speaker - one 
>of you is better positioned than me to know if he fits the profile for 
>that. but then we'd be reduced to 2 choices for our working session.
>
>B. here is a draft request for funding to bring Beagrie to the ESIP meeting:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iRjsro7MtVgbSYYvqgBpFi5EFoDGhxFx4tudjH0CF-s/edit
>
>needs a bunch of work, as you will see. the original announcement of 
>funding support is pasted in at the bottom of the page.
>
>AND Finally!
>C. the notes from the March call are posted. Please note that Cyndy had 
>a request - there were two columns left off one of the tabs, please 
>revisit and fill in your numeric score:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sp5QMsTda3ez-FvwNEQKWjBbHzIc0RzrMZ7jrOYhUuA/edit#gid=765568346
>
>
>looking forward to all your edits!
>Margaret
>
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>Margaret O'Brien
>Information Management
>Marine Science Institute, UCSB
>Santa Barbara, CA 93106
>805-893-2071 (voice)
>http://environmentaldatainitiative.org
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>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>Subject: 	Re: Notes from today's ESIP Sustainability Cluster meeting
>Date: 	Mon, 27 Mar 2017 11:12:22 -0700
>From: 	Margaret O'Brien <margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu>
>To: 	Parr, Cynthia - ARS <Cynthia.Parr at ARS.USDA.GOV>
>
>
>
>Hi Cyndy -
>I had a fantastic break in New Zealand!
>The process for adding pages is a little obtuse (IMO) - no surprise you
>didn't figure it out. I'll get these in the next day or so.
>
>Margaret
>
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>Margaret O'Brien
>Information Management
>Marine Science Institute, UCSB
>Santa Barbara, CA 93106
>805-893-2071 (voice)
>http://environmentaldatainitiative.org
>http://sbc.marinebon.org
>http://sbc.lternet.edu
>
>On 3/10/17 3:29 PM, Parr, Cynthia - ARS wrote:
>>
>> Margaret,
>>
>> Hope you enjoyed your vacation! We need help getting these notes onto
>> the wiki – we couldn't figure out how to add a page
>>
>> I noticed that we should also put the upcoming EAGER subgroup meeting
>> San Diego workspace under activities.
>>
>> Metrics discussion
>>
>> Cyndy reviewed the results from the survey we did on which metrics we
>> think are valuable to an ROI calculation, even if we aren't yet sure
>> how to get the measure. Added a few tabs to the Google spreadsheet
>> here:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sp5QMsTda3ez-FvwNEQKWjBbHzIc0RzrMZ7jrOYhUuA/edit#gid=0
>>
>> Result is three groupings of metrics (red, not so important to
>> everyone, orange: medium important, green: most people think are
>> important).
>>
>> We talked as a group about some of the metrics and people's reasons
>> for not considering them applicable, tweaked some of the notes.
>> Everyone was okay with the scoring approach.
>>
>> Cyndy left off a couple of important metrics so please go to the
>> Number importance results tab (
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sp5QMsTda3ez-FvwNEQKWjBbHzIc0RzrMZ7jrOYhUuA/edit#gid=765568346)
>> and add your scores so we can get them into the summary.
>>
>> Also please share your thoughts on the interpretation of the metrics
>> in that spreadsheet on the main tab
>>
>> White paper
>>
>> Corinna shared that the PIs have a report due to NSF at the end of the
>> month. This can be the start of our outline for the white paper.
>>
>> Ideas for the Summer ESIP meeting
>>
>> Nominated Margaret to put in a session for the ROI group to have a
>> working meeting to make progress on the white paper. We don't think
>> this would be good for beginners to attend as we need to get work done
>> and will make more progress if we don't have to bring everyone up to
>> speed.
>>
>> The Landscape group may want their own session but not sure if anybody
>> volunteered to write up that abstract.
>>
>> Assuming that there will be a poster where we can do a general report
>> out of our activities.
>>
>> Shelly talked about the PPT she put in the google drive ROI workshop
>> folder.
>>
>> -- metrics definitions: key things one want to know for each metrics
>>
>> -- how different metrics might be used to do buildup
>>
>> Example: POF perfect order fulfillment (in a transactional
>> environment) -- this was 70 raw metrics rolled up into one -- valuable
>> to the higher leadership but lost its meaning for everyone else.
>>
>> Shelley can present this talk in our next monthly meeting, about 30
>> minutes. She can try to work in examples from our ROI metrics spreadsheet
>>
>> She points out that one doesn't want to track too many -- likes the
>> way we've been deciding on the most important ones. Another method
>> uses fibonacci series to figure that out!!
>>
>> We agreed that a goal of this group is to get clarity on these core
>> metrics, knowing that each repository will have others they want to
>> track for their own purposes.
>>
>> Shelley gave an re3data update
>>
>> Michael Witt has been working on new things for re3data
>>
>> If important fields still don't exist on re3data, we should prepare so
>> that in the Fall they could consider adding.
>>
>> Next month: Shelley's presentation
>>
>> review the EAGER report with a plan to turn it into the white paper
>>
>>
>>
>>
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