<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Matt,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, I can give the intro. It should be an interesting conversation. I’m available, so go ahead and send the invitation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-m. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 11, 2022, at 7:46 AM, Mathew Biddle - NOAA Federal <<a href="mailto:mathew.biddle@noaa.gov" class="">mathew.biddle@noaa.gov</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Mark,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You bring a great perspective and we think that would be a wonderful starting point for this conversation. I agree that the issue can be simplified as "nothing about Indigenous peoples, without Indigenous peoples", it's a matter of bringing awareness to our community to encourage those types of conversations. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will share the connection information with you later today.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For reference the webinar is on August 25th at 3:00pm ET. We will start off with a brief introduction to the CARE principles (10 mins?) from you, then dig into the specific topic I referenced above. We typically go for about an hour, but after your introduction you are more than welcome to hop off.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again! We really appreciate your willingness to contribute to this important conversation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Matt</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 5:54 PM Mark Parsons <<a href="mailto:parsonsm.work@icloud.com" class="">parsonsm.work@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hi Matt,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m new to the sustainable DM cluster having just joined their mailing list after the meeting in Pittsburgh, but it seems they have worked with GIDA to give some of these issues due consideration. That said I’m happy to attend your session on the 25th and provide what background I can as a colonial white guy involved in the original paper.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I looked at the git conversation you referenced, and I don’t quite get it. It seems like the first step is to contact representatives of the relevant First Nation (largely a Canadian term) and ask how they would like to be credited and to ensure collective benefit etc. I found the discussion of country/tribe particularly strange. It doesn’t matter if people have not heard of the nation, tribe, or whatever, the relevant people need to be involved.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The issue hits on several of the detailed CARE principles, but I think the general issue can be simplified as “nothing about Indigenous peoples, without Indigenous peoples”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-m. </div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 9, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Mathew Biddle - NOAA Federal <<a href="mailto:mathew.biddle@noaa.gov" target="_blank" class="">mathew.biddle@noaa.gov</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Margaret,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for the quick response! I'll take a look at the materials you provided and share those with our community. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mark,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you have the availability and interest, it would be great to hear from you. For background, this topic presented itself in a conversation with one of our community members on how to appropriately cite First Nations in the metadata for oceanographic data. You can see the conversation in this GitHub thread <a href="https://github.com/ioos/ioos-metadata/issues/35" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/ioos/ioos-metadata/issues/35</a>. While this is currently the specific topic of interest to our community, we thought it would be beneficial to bring in the higher level topic of CARE for further discussion while addressing the existing needs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Matt </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:35 PM Mark Parsons <<a href="mailto:parsonsm.work@icloud.com" target="_blank" class="">parsonsm.work@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Hi Matt,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I replied to your slack message too, but I could probably present. I’m one of the co-authors.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-m. </div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Margaret O'Brien via Esip-sustainabledm <<a href="mailto:esip-sustainabledm@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" class="">esip-sustainabledm@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">HI Matt -<div class="">I happen to chair that ESIP cluster, and can give you an overview. There are a few talks in the esip-sphere from this group already, which would also serve to introduce your group to this topic and what the cluster has done so far. It may be that if you see those presentations, you don't actually need another talk (from me), but could instead bring up questions or discussion points. Our cluster has not yet mapped out all of our next steps with this material, and it would be useful to have some additional input.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">ESIP: <a href="https://esip.figshare.com/articles/presentation/ESIP_and_CARE_Principles_-_ESIP_summer_2021/16926739" target="_blank" class="">https://esip.figshare.com/articles/presentation/ESIP_and_CARE_Principles_-_ESIP_summer_2021/16926739</a><br class=""></div><div class="">RDA: I think there is a recording of this, also in 2021</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">best,</div><div class="">Margaret</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="monospace, monospace" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Margaret O'Brien</span><br class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">ORCID: 0000-0002-1693-8322</span><br class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Information Management</span><br class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Marine Science Institute, UCSB</span><br class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Santa Barbara, CA 93106</span><br class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">805-893-2071 (voice)</span><br class=""><a href="http://edirepository.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://edirepository.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://sbc.marinebon.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://sbc.marinebon.org</a></font><div class=""><font face="monospace, monospace" class=""><a href="http://sbc.lternet.edu/" target="_blank" class="">http://sbc.lternet.edu</a></font></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><pre cols="72" class=""><pre cols="72" class=""><br class=""></pre></pre></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 9:36 AM Mathew Biddle - NOAA Federal via Esip-sustainabledm <<a href="mailto:esip-sustainabledm@lists.esipfed.org" target="_blank" class="">esip-sustainabledm@lists.esipfed.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi ESIP Sustainable Data Management Cluster!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Our data management and cyberinfrastructure community is interested in learning more about the CARE principles. We're curious if anyone in this cluster would be interested in giving an "introduction to CARE principles" presentation on Thursday, August 25 at 3:00 pm ET? <div class="">It would only be 10 minutes or so...<div class=""><br class="">It's a technical group so the conversation will most likely dive into implementation details, including appropriate indigenous metadata citation.</div><div class=""><br class="">If you are interested and available, please feel free to reply back to me and we can coordinate from there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Matt<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font color="#999999" class="">Mathew Biddle, Physical Scientist<br class="">NOAA/NOS<br class="">US Integrated Ocean Observing System Office<br class="">1315 East-West Highway<br class="">Silver Spring MD 20910</font><div class=""><font color="#999999" class="">240-533-9470<br class=""></font><br class=""><font color="#999999" class="">ORCiD:</font> <a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4897-1669" target="_blank" class="">0000-0003-4897-1669</a><br class=""><div class=""><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px" class=""><a href="http://www.ioos.noaa.gov/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" class="">http://www.ioos.noaa.gov/</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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