[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] [EXTERNAL] Re: Credit Session Takeaways

Mon Aug 15 14:14:34 EDT 2022

Thank you to all who replied with feedback for the takeaways slide. I incorporated it all and submitted the slide to ESIP.

Best!

Madison Langseth (she/hers)

U.S. Geological Survey
Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)
Denver Federal Center
Building 810, Mail Stop 302
Denver, CO 80225

(303) 202-4088

mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>

http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4472-9106

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Hi Madison

I think the slides are great.

Just a follow-up on things I was trying to present this morning, this is the EGU 2022 abstract on User Identification and Authentication for Geophysical Data Centers:  Exploring a Difficult Transition<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeetingorganizer.copernicus.org%2FEGU22%2FEGU22-12105.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmlangseth%40usgs.gov%7C2645c6e49c7d4290c2ad08da7bee7fe5%7C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494%7C0%7C0%7C637958561545019406%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oIcEw%2FDP3Iid9JZjtD0e8CJ2wsOg7b8Zgf5T2%2ByQKRE%3D&reserved=0> and this is a link to the slides<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F12kUpmOb4-4PvmOAMD_bVtPCpmozLVsKS%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.p1&data=05%7C01%7Cmlangseth%40usgs.gov%7C2645c6e49c7d4290c2ad08da7bee7fe5%7C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494%7C0%7C0%7C637958561545019406%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1PI393Kej%2F8p0jGox%2FgtprMEo2Ec5Ah9MXneuhpgpGY%3D&reserved=0> from that presentation.

The issue is that NSF and other funders internationally are now wanting to repositories to provide information on what data and services are used by whom and for what purpose in greater detail than customary in the past, when bulk information about the number of users/accesses and volumes of download were deemed sufficient in most cases.

To some extent, the user identification on the repositories has been sorted out, although there are questions in Europe about this impinging on privacy legislation.

The next steps is to be able to trace usage of data/samples etc from the primary repository in publications and yes, you can do this with knowledge graphs and other technical solutions, but it is ensuring that these foundational artefacts are citated in the downstream papers and how this is best done that is why I get up (try and get up) once a month at 6:00 am to meet with you all!!!

Most publications today only cite the derivative dataset that the paper is based on, not the source dataset/sample/repository that the derivative dataset is utilised and hence these source repositories are becoming ‘invisible’ in the funders eyes and cannot provide concrete evidence.

Rob Casey and I almost brought the issue to ESIP 2022 July meeting, but we ran out of time. TO some extent it also overlaps with what this cluster is also trying to achieve (or at least I think it does….)

Take care

Lesley

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Date: Friday, 12 August 2022 at 8:31 am
To: Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov>
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Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] Credit Session Takeaways

Yes, these look great, Madison! In addition to the simplified bullet kindly offered by Ted, perhaps the last bullet could be simplified a bit to be more like the following:

ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster should focus on improving social norms (rather than technical solutions)

Thanks,

Bob

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On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:27 PM Langseth, Madison L via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:

Hi ESIP Citation Cluster,

Thanks to everyone who was able to join the cluster meeting today! We had a great discussion today around next steps for the cluster and we will continue that next month. Next week is the session highlights webinar from the ESIP Summer Meeting. I've created a slide <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F1UN-eqqeDN--4eRYkvHwq4aGmDHQSrNLdf4bGpOimsM8%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g1405712eec4_0_0&data=05%7C01%7Cmlangseth%40usgs.gov%7C2645c6e49c7d4290c2ad08da7bee7fe5%7C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494%7C0%7C0%7C637958561545019406%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EKaMp71KhgP8HrGX8FPPb2t7TeHGFWkNR3sbSSKkDcE%3D&reserved=0> to present next Wednesday, but I'd like feedback on the three takeaways that I have listed:

  *   Project teams need guidance about how and what roles to assign credit
  *   Research community needs tools for visualizing or gaining insight into specific aspects of the PID graph
  *   ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster is best suited to helping establish/promote social norms (as opposed to developing technical solutions)

Let me know if you have a better takeaway to contribute (and which current one you think it should replace) or if any of these should be rephrased. Please let me know by 12:00 pm MT on Monday, August 15 so I can submit the final slide by the end of the day Monday.

Thanks!

Madison Langseth (she/hers)

U.S. Geological Survey
Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)
Denver Federal Center
Building 810, Mail Stop 302
Denver, CO 80225

(303) 202-4088

mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>

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