[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update

Mon Nov 7 10:40:59 EST 2022

Hi All,

Just chiming in here to say that I think what Madison proposed looks like a
great area of focus for the time-being. I do think it's important to zero
in on specific areas, like data, in part to identify a specific activity to
potentially take on. We don't have to forget about other artifacts. Of
course, you can always move on to others or pan back out to focusing on
several at a later time. Clusters are not meant to be all things to all
people, but instead work on addressing a specific need before moving on to
the next need or going on hiatus. With good communication, you can keep the
whole mailing list informed and people can show up when it is most useful
for them.

Thanks,
Megan

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 7:27 AM Langseth, Madison L via
Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

> Hi Lesley,
>
> I did attend the NISO CRediT Persona Workshop, and I don't think that this
> work would overlap with that group. I'm happy to continue talking about
> other roles in our cluster. I'm just acknowledging that we likely can't do
> anything super specific without narrowing it to a particular artifact.
> Let's keep chatting about it, though!
>
> *Madison Langseth (she/hers)*
>
> *U.S. Geological Survey*
> *Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)*
> *Denver Federal Center*
> *Building 810, Mail Stop 302*
> *Denver, CO 80225*
>
> *(303) 202-4088*
>
> *mlangseth at usgs.gov* <mlangseth at usgs.gov>
>
> *http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4472-9106*
> <http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4472-9106>
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> *From:* Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 5, 2022 2:47 PM
> *To:* Hampapuram Ramapriyan <hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>; Langseth,
> Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov>; esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org
> <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster
> Update
>
>
> Hi Madison
>
>
>
> Just thinking more on this.
>
>
>
> Did anyone attend the NISO Credit Persona workshops
> <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.niso.org%2Fevents%2Fcredit-persona-workshops&data=05%7C01%7Cmlangseth%40usgs.gov%7Cf1491a4c55bd4f954fe308dabf6eec41%7C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494%7C0%7C0%7C638032780390337867%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=7hnUzlzPRovyKU70vMJv%2BKPKO1Lvk4uDu2vitEv8knM%3D&reserved=0>
> in September? It was at 2.00 am in the morning so I did not make it.
>
>
>
> If we restrict ourselves to data, will we be overlapping with what that
> group is doing?
>
>
>
> When we were considering other roles (software, samples, models, etc) we
> were doing something that no one else that I could find was.
>
>
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> Take care
>
>
>
>
>
> Lesley
>
>
>
> *From: *Hampapuram Ramapriyan <hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>
> *Date: *Saturday, 5 November 2022 at 6:54 am
> *To: *Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov>, Lesley Wyborn <
> Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>, esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
> *Subject: *RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster
> Update
>
> Hi Madison,
>
> It sounds like a good thing to do, and I would like to stay involved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rama.
>
>
>
> *From:* Esip-citationguidelines <
> esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org> *On Behalf Of *Langseth,
> Madison L via Esip-citationguidelines
> *Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2022 11:51 AM
> *To:* Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>;
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP
> Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update
>
>
>
> Thanks for the questions, Lesley! As we have been discussing in the group
> lately, it is challenging to develop blanket guidance/resources for all
> research artifacts. I would like to start with a focus on data and we can
> see if what we generate for data can be applied more broadly to other
> research artifacts. If not, we could tackle another artifact after working
> on data if people think that would be worthwhile.
>
>
>
> I am not planning to do anything formal at the ESIP winter meeting;
> however, if there will be opportunities for birds of a feather discussions,
> it would be fun to start chatting about this during the winter meeting.
>
>
>
> *Madison Langseth (she/hers)*
>
> *U.S. Geological Survey*
> *Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)*
> *Denver Federal Center*
> *Building 810, Mail Stop 302*
> *Denver, CO 80225*
>
> *(303) 202-4088*
>
> *mlangseth at usgs.gov* <mlangseth at usgs.gov>
>
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> *From:* Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2022 3:32 AM
> *To:* Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov>;
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <
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> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update
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> HI Madison
>
>
>
> I am happy to continue.
>
>
>
> Can you clarify two things for me:
>
> 1.       Are you now restricting the new group to be just for data, not
> research artefacts as we were previously considering (samples, software,
> etc)
>
> 2.       Is this group in its new incarnation actually proposing to do
> something for the ESIP winter meeting?
>
>
>
> Take care
>
>
>
> Lesley
>
>
>
> *From: *Esip-citationguidelines <
> esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org> on behalf of Langseth,
> Madison L via Esip-citationguidelines <
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
> *Date: *Friday, 4 November 2022 at 9:00 am
> *To: *esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
> *Subject: *[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] ESIP Research Artifact
> Citation Cluster Update
>
> Hi Fellow Cluster Members,
>
>
>
> During our cluster meeting last month, cluster members determined that it
> might be time for the Research Artifact Citation Cluster to take a break.
> There are still challenges in the area of credit for research artifacts,
> but we were not able to come up with a clear direction to move the group.
> Following that discussion, I attended a Science Gateways Community
> Institute training that was hosted by ESIP to help cluster leads to develop
> value propositions and goals for their cluster. As I brainstormed with
> other cluster leads, I had an idea of a goal/direction that we could
> potentially head, if others are interested:
>
>
>
> *Goal*: Increase earth science researcher awareness of credit
> considerations for data
>
>
>
> *Activity:* Create bite-sized pieces of information (think infographics)
> that cluster members, data managers, librarians, repository managers, etc.,
> could use to engage early career researchers in conversations about credit
> for data.
>
>
>
> If this sounds like something that you would be interested in pursuing
> with me, please let me know by responding to this email!
>
>
>
> If there is enough interest, I would like to meet again in February 2023
> to discuss the idea in more detail and formulate a plan. This break will
> give us some time to focus on activities at the AGU Fall Meeting and ESIP
> Winter Meeting and come back reinvigorated in the new year. I will try to
> put together a Doodle poll for anyone who responds to find a common meeting
> time that will work for the most participants.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, let's continue using the listserv to share resources and
> questions related to citation and credit!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> *Madison Langseth (she/hers)*
>
> *U.S. Geological Survey*
> *Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)*
> *Denver Federal Center*
> *Building 810, Mail Stop 302*
> *Denver, CO 80225*
>
> *(303) 202-4088*
>
> *mlangseth at usgs.gov* <mlangseth at usgs.gov>
>
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