[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update

Lesley Wyborn Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au
Tue Nov 8 05:13:54 EST 2022 

Dear all

As long as we are not overlapping with the NISO group then it is fine.

I also don’t really know any groups in the Research Data Alliance that is considering this  topic either.

However, closer to home, the issue of credit for those associated with the collection, processing and curation of physical samples is on the agenda of the ESIP Physical samples cluster. It would be worth seeing how the samples group could leverage off what you are proposing.

Take care

Lesley

From: Megan Carter <megancarter at esipfed.org>
Date: Tuesday, 8 November 2022 at 2:41 am
To: Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov>
Cc: Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>, Hampapuram Ramapriyan <hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>, esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update
Hi All,

Just chiming in here to say that I think what Madison proposed looks like a great area of focus for the time-being. I do think it's important to zero in on specific areas, like data, in part to identify a specific activity to potentially take on. We don't have to forget about other artifacts. Of course, you can always move on to others or pan back out to focusing on several at a later time. Clusters are not meant to be all things to all people, but instead work on addressing a specific need before moving on to the next need or going on hiatus. With good communication, you can keep the whole mailing list informed and people can show up when it is most useful for them.

Thanks,
Megan

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 7:27 AM Langseth, Madison L via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
Hi Lesley,

I did attend the NISO CRediT Persona Workshop, and I don't think that this work would overlap with that group. I'm happy to continue talking about other roles in our cluster. I'm just acknowledging that we likely can't do anything super specific without narrowing it to a particular artifact. Let's keep chatting about it, though!


Madison Langseth (she/hers)

U.S. Geological Survey
Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)
Denver Federal Center
Building 810, Mail Stop 302
Denver, CO 80225

(303) 202-4088

mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>

http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4472-9106<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-4472-9106&data=05%7C01%7CLesley.Wyborn%40anu.edu.au%7C23cd449fa3a549d7c13508dac0d6829d%7Ce37d725cab5c46249ae5f0533e486437%7C0%7C0%7C638034324808354323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9sbRT1zQMeUpVEnT7ORwjLOLvZfVOH7MwFnjZP5RflQ%3D&reserved=0>

________________________________
From: Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au<mailto:Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>>
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2022 2:47 PM
To: Hampapuram Ramapriyan <hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com<mailto:hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>>; Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>>; esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update


Hi Madison



Just thinking more on this.



Did anyone attend the NISO Credit Persona workshops<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.niso.org%2Fevents%2Fcredit-persona-workshops&data=05%7C01%7CLesley.Wyborn%40anu.edu.au%7C23cd449fa3a549d7c13508dac0d6829d%7Ce37d725cab5c46249ae5f0533e486437%7C0%7C0%7C638034324808354323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gOQZ7oCAYZIU%2FQGo3hloH6heF1BtIifFJDKITHJvMEE%3D&reserved=0> in September? It was at 2.00 am in the morning so I did not make it.



If we restrict ourselves to data, will we be overlapping with what that group is doing?



When we were considering other roles (software, samples, models, etc) we were doing something that no one else that I could find was.



Take care





Lesley



From: Hampapuram Ramapriyan <hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com<mailto:hampapuram.ramapriya at ssaihq.com>>
Date: Saturday, 5 November 2022 at 6:54 am
To: Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>>, Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au<mailto:Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>>, esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update

Hi Madison,

It sounds like a good thing to do, and I would like to stay involved.

Thanks.

Rama.



From: Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org>> On Behalf Of Langseth, Madison L via Esip-citationguidelines
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 11:51 AM
To: Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au<mailto:Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>>; esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update



Thanks for the questions, Lesley! As we have been discussing in the group lately, it is challenging to develop blanket guidance/resources for all research artifacts. I would like to start with a focus on data and we can see if what we generate for data can be applied more broadly to other research artifacts. If not, we could tackle another artifact after working on data if people think that would be worthwhile.



I am not planning to do anything formal at the ESIP winter meeting; however, if there will be opportunities for birds of a feather discussions, it would be fun to start chatting about this during the winter meeting.



Madison Langseth (she/hers)

U.S. Geological Survey
Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)
Denver Federal Center
Building 810, Mail Stop 302
Denver, CO 80225

(303) 202-4088

mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>

http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4472-9106<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkprotect.cudasvc.com%2Furl%3Fa%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252forcid.org%252f0000-0002-4472-9106%26c%3DE%2C1%2CfIdhDP7Ij4r3CVgtCLF1-M2IEesK0YDhlZ7B_8z4Kwniee4Hcd-jhLTwIjjSXy8_n6AhWWHAAEC573F0chmvl7t6s7-W64kZzjlZ3KMVKrua%26typo%3D1&data=05%7C01%7CLesley.Wyborn%40anu.edu.au%7C23cd449fa3a549d7c13508dac0d6829d%7Ce37d725cab5c46249ae5f0533e486437%7C0%7C0%7C638034324808354323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=j66hbOjZXPV3yO%2BtBcW7jt%2FyoUGKynoE6cgxVWeljMg%3D&reserved=0>



________________________________

From: Lesley Wyborn <Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au<mailto:Lesley.Wyborn at anu.edu.au>>
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 3:32 AM
To: Langseth, Madison L <mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>>; esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update





 This email has been received from outside of DOI - Use caution before clicking on links, opening attachments, or responding.



HI Madison



I am happy to continue.



Can you clarify two things for me:

1.       Are you now restricting the new group to be just for data, not research artefacts as we were previously considering (samples, software, etc)

2.       Is this group in its new incarnation actually proposing to do something for the ESIP winter meeting?



Take care



Lesley



From: Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines-bounces at lists.esipfed.org>> on behalf of Langseth, Madison L via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>>
Date: Friday, 4 November 2022 at 9:00 am
To: esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>>
Subject: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] ESIP Research Artifact Citation Cluster Update

Hi Fellow Cluster Members,



During our cluster meeting last month, cluster members determined that it might be time for the Research Artifact Citation Cluster to take a break. There are still challenges in the area of credit for research artifacts, but we were not able to come up with a clear direction to move the group. Following that discussion, I attended a Science Gateways Community Institute training that was hosted by ESIP to help cluster leads to develop value propositions and goals for their cluster. As I brainstormed with other cluster leads, I had an idea of a goal/direction that we could potentially head, if others are interested:



Goal: Increase earth science researcher awareness of credit considerations for data



Activity: Create bite-sized pieces of information (think infographics) that cluster members, data managers, librarians, repository managers, etc., could use to engage early career researchers in conversations about credit for data.



If this sounds like something that you would be interested in pursuing with me, please let me know by responding to this email!



If there is enough interest, I would like to meet again in February 2023 to discuss the idea in more detail and formulate a plan. This break will give us some time to focus on activities at the AGU Fall Meeting and ESIP Winter Meeting and come back reinvigorated in the new year. I will try to put together a Doodle poll for anyone who responds to find a common meeting time that will work for the most participants.



In the meantime, let's continue using the listserv to share resources and questions related to citation and credit!



Best,



Madison Langseth (she/hers)

U.S. Geological Survey
Science Analytics & Synthesis (SAS)
Denver Federal Center
Building 810, Mail Stop 302
Denver, CO 80225

(303) 202-4088

mlangseth at usgs.gov<mailto:mlangseth at usgs.gov>

http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4472-9106<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-4472-9106&data=05%7C01%7CLesley.Wyborn%40anu.edu.au%7C23cd449fa3a549d7c13508dac0d6829d%7Ce37d725cab5c46249ae5f0533e486437%7C0%7C0%7C638034324808354323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9sbRT1zQMeUpVEnT7ORwjLOLvZfVOH7MwFnjZP5RflQ%3D&reserved=0>



_______________________________________________
Esip-citationguidelines mailing list
To start a new topic: Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:Esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
To unsubscribe and manage prefs: https://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-citationguidelines<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.esipfed.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fesip-citationguidelines&data=05%7C01%7CLesley.Wyborn%40anu.edu.au%7C23cd449fa3a549d7c13508dac0d6829d%7Ce37d725cab5c46249ae5f0533e486437%7C0%7C0%7C638034324808354323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6mQ67CF4wVOkQl0cN1Tt3XvInBL3z1pLq9pDKved2KA%3D&reserved=0>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.esipfed.org/pipermail/esip-citationguidelines/attachments/20221108/ddd72142/attachment-0001.htm>

More information about the Esip-citationguidelines mailing list