[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs

Wed Mar 29 11:35:00 EDT 2023

Thanks Diana, I would be happy to have you involved as we put together our
session.  It probably won't be until later in April, but I can loop you in
as we get some ideas together,

Best,
Matt

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:58 AM Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
wrote:

> Matthew,
>
> I would be very interested in working together on a session for the Summer
> ESIP meeting. Please let me know how I can help!
>
> Recently, I have been focusing on persistent identifier systems. There are
> many. The Library of Congress maintains a list Standard Identifiers - LC
> Linked Data Service: Authorities and Vocabularies | Library of Congress
> (loc.gov) <https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>. It was last
> updated in 2020 and does not contain all of the systems relevant to
> science. I was thinking of suggesting a review of these systems a the
> upcoming meeting of the Research Artifact Citation group. It would be
> useful to identify where there is duplication and where there are holes.
>
> Dan, As a technologist, I understand the difficulty of developing a
> persistent identifier system for software. I need to catch up on the
> resources you shared. Thank you for providing them!
>
> Best
> Diana
>
>
> Standard Identifiers - LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and
> Vocabularies | Library of Congress
> <https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>
> The Linked Data Service provides access to commonly found standards and
> vocabularies promulgated by the Library of Congress. This includes data
> values and the controlled vocabularies that house them. Datasets available
> include LCSH, BIBFRAME, LC Name Authorities, LC Classification, MARC codes,
> PREMIS vocabularies, ISO language codes, and more.
> id.loc.gov
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2023 4:44 PM
> *To:* Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
> *Cc:* esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs
>
> Hi Diana, all,
> I am co-PI of a recent NSF Research Coordination Network (RCN) grant
> focused on PIDs for facilities and instruments. We are still in early
> phases, but are planning to dig into the benefits and drawbacks of using
> RRIDs vs DOIs for instruments and facilities. Anita B. is on our project's
> advisory group. We were already planning to organize a session on this
> topic for the summer ESIP meeting, so if others are interested, I'd be
> happy to talk more and work together on a session.
>
> Here is our project web site:
> https://ncar.github.io/FAIR-Facilities-Instruments/
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
> Matthew Mayernik
> Project Scientist & Research Data Services Specialist
> NCAR Library
> National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR)
> Boulder, CO
> mayernik at ucar.edu
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 11:57 AM Daniel Katz via Esip-citationguidelines <
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>
> I've had lots of discussions with Anita B. (from SciCrunch
> <https://www.scicrunch.com>, which manages RRIDs) about them. We've had
> fairly strong disagreements about the role of RRIDs for software, but
> mostly come to the agreement that they are ok to use for software packages
> (not versions but overall concepts - all versions) in the life sciences.
>
> Other disciplines have other PIDs that they use for software, which is
> confusing and difficult.
>
> This is unlike data, where DOIs have become standard.
>
> For more on repository and registry practices related to software, see
> https://scicodes.net/ and https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.13117
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Diana via Esip-citationguidelines <
> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am wondering if this group has ever discussed RRIDs? In my brief review,
> the system appears to target the life sciences, but may be able to address
> the repository question that we have discussed(?)
>
>
>  Warm regards
> Diana
>
> URL:
> giac058.pdf (silverchair.com)
> <https://watermark.silverchair.com/giac058.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAuswggLnBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggLYMIIC1AIBADCCAs0GCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMTjlF90wzqrpBge0yAgEQgIICnjN2vCMlzO71FV8ODdyPuQ0uUxumbJxzh9o2EiLs4WiVxdCM7UnravZ865sTy4TQjPB2YepyGxkRdLN-5CbTfdMguXTV7GMxqJya_xey2g1LJqWsHft4ZJKep7jQq4gfFmwAXEns_i_Qb_unSCeU7ane5QfSPXbHf9wDwcvot_jeVv-D9K1QBlTQelqShSfHJvk5VLzIBVtaC0IodphwUEoADzQtz0gh8i_VoiA7-a-Zx7pktH03va7RbW88SfSHfCJ3auz594soDa37XJO1cLpEDpkO4JgSG6KQQCtps93PnyjTQdHNNHTBoc3lnCH4dVTYacN3zG47MfQAvJQz5PT6sRxBPAo200RB2cO75RXcOWjMCbVyBY9-7AfTuT7-mmHdivRblvn6xZveCeVEF9mzVAJU1agN5aV433riACcM1e4AoxubSnKt9nZt8g7krCcEJccJhcl3E37unbVzMPYeiTL_O-WHb0Ifaipmj6KNAFkl7rubGY-rvIuaND9sq65_1fwngfDI9Qmhbt4asMMcjL5Zd8DeAf1PnFI6B6mbgtYncqMtWf2ZYURKfyToPFm1v67OlCJfhScU9xTHNTKFBWVTXhytuV0LhUvqKWgUw5X1Dmuins3YTPxUTfpUqppdmMNWiSHVKIdZLr0GtaMDFTjSkwCQfjk9CLZVgm1PjbMMlL8bTbwaSzAkpDtOLEcB56GPVj0HoG2FHyRtuzEJy4yp3bdj7j_ThqQ97Qp47bclSyVQTuv6eHiHVLdhQNqgOJ8JSJSkWpB9_IVEge0V-6rpccIsNlXnkmiGoxXyqGwCaig1FXFf4vQhDFIfO7YJrL_kYKvUgCrJuoCl678fchn2j7Teojig27QBOCvqX4dpKjzvapbFjiG0JTc>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> EXERPT:
> RIDs are not for citing ideas or data since well-developed cita tion
> systems already exist for that. Instead, RRID numbers are created by
> repositories that distribute the research resource, such as Addgene for
> plasmids, or the National Xenopus Resource for transgenic frogs.
> <giac058.pdf>
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