[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs

Wed Mar 29 16:37:02 EDT 2023

Diana,

Does the LC Standard Identifiers vocabulary draw from the identifiers.org
resolution service? We find their registry to be quite comprehensive and a
machine readable source for our federated data systems, and it is
continuously updated as new RRIDs and other identifier types get created.
Here's the registry of identifier types:
https://registry.identifiers.org/registry The science-on-schema.org group
decided to recommend the use of the identifiers.org vocabulary as the
source for standard URLs for identifier schemes:
https://github.com/ESIPFed/science-on-schema.org/blob/master/guides/Dataset.md#identifier

I'd be interested in the ESIP session as well.

Matt

*Matthew B. Jones*
ORCID: 0000-0003-0077-4738 <https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0077-4738>
Director of Informatics R&D, National Center for Ecological Analysis and
Synthesis <http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ecoinfo>
PI, NSF Arctic Data Center <https://arcticdata.io/>
Director, DataONE <https://dataone.org/> program
University of California Santa Barbara

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 8:35 AM Matthew Mayernik via
Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

> Thanks Diana, I would be happy to have you involved as we put together our
> session.  It probably won't be until later in April, but I can loop you in
> as we get some ideas together,
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:58 AM Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Matthew,
>>
>> I would be very interested in working together on a session for the
>> Summer ESIP meeting. Please let me know how I can help!
>>
>> Recently, I have been focusing on persistent identifier systems. There
>> are many. The Library of Congress maintains a list Standard Identifiers
>> - LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and Vocabularies | Library of
>> Congress (loc.gov) <https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>. It was
>> last updated in 2020 and does not contain all of the systems relevant to
>> science. I was thinking of suggesting a review of these systems a the
>> upcoming meeting of the Research Artifact Citation group. It would be
>> useful to identify where there is duplication and where there are holes.
>>
>> Dan, As a technologist, I understand the difficulty of developing a
>> persistent identifier system for software. I need to catch up on the
>> resources you shared. Thank you for providing them!
>>
>> Best
>> Diana
>>
>>
>> Standard Identifiers - LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and
>> Vocabularies | Library of Congress
>> <https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>
>> The Linked Data Service provides access to commonly found standards and
>> vocabularies promulgated by the Library of Congress. This includes data
>> values and the controlled vocabularies that house them. Datasets available
>> include LCSH, BIBFRAME, LC Name Authorities, LC Classification, MARC codes,
>> PREMIS vocabularies, ISO language codes, and more.
>> id.loc.gov
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2023 4:44 PM
>> *To:* Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
>> *Cc:* esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <
>> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs
>>
>> Hi Diana, all,
>> I am co-PI of a recent NSF Research Coordination Network (RCN) grant
>> focused on PIDs for facilities and instruments. We are still in early
>> phases, but are planning to dig into the benefits and drawbacks of using
>> RRIDs vs DOIs for instruments and facilities. Anita B. is on our project's
>> advisory group. We were already planning to organize a session on this
>> topic for the summer ESIP meeting, so if others are interested, I'd be
>> happy to talk more and work together on a session.
>>
>> Here is our project web site:
>> https://ncar.github.io/FAIR-Facilities-Instruments/
>>
>> Best,
>> Matt
>>
>> Matthew Mayernik
>> Project Scientist & Research Data Services Specialist
>> NCAR Library
>> National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
>> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR)
>> Boulder, CO
>> mayernik at ucar.edu
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 11:57 AM Daniel Katz via Esip-citationguidelines <
>> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've had lots of discussions with Anita B. (from SciCrunch
>> <https://www.scicrunch.com>, which manages RRIDs) about them. We've had
>> fairly strong disagreements about the role of RRIDs for software, but
>> mostly come to the agreement that they are ok to use for software packages
>> (not versions but overall concepts - all versions) in the life sciences.
>>
>> Other disciplines have other PIDs that they use for software, which is
>> confusing and difficult.
>>
>> This is unlike data, where DOIs have become standard.
>>
>> For more on repository and registry practices related to software, see
>> https://scicodes.net/ and https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.13117
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Diana via Esip-citationguidelines <
>> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am wondering if this group has ever discussed RRIDs? In my brief
>> review, the system appears to target the life sciences, but may be able to
>> address the repository question that we have discussed(?)
>>
>>
>>  Warm regards
>> Diana
>>
>> URL:
>> giac058.pdf (silverchair.com)
>> <https://watermark.silverchair.com/giac058.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAuswggLnBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggLYMIIC1AIBADCCAs0GCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMTjlF90wzqrpBge0yAgEQgIICnjN2vCMlzO71FV8ODdyPuQ0uUxumbJxzh9o2EiLs4WiVxdCM7UnravZ865sTy4TQjPB2YepyGxkRdLN-5CbTfdMguXTV7GMxqJya_xey2g1LJqWsHft4ZJKep7jQq4gfFmwAXEns_i_Qb_unSCeU7ane5QfSPXbHf9wDwcvot_jeVv-D9K1QBlTQelqShSfHJvk5VLzIBVtaC0IodphwUEoADzQtz0gh8i_VoiA7-a-Zx7pktH03va7RbW88SfSHfCJ3auz594soDa37XJO1cLpEDpkO4JgSG6KQQCtps93PnyjTQdHNNHTBoc3lnCH4dVTYacN3zG47MfQAvJQz5PT6sRxBPAo200RB2cO75RXcOWjMCbVyBY9-7AfTuT7-mmHdivRblvn6xZveCeVEF9mzVAJU1agN5aV433riACcM1e4AoxubSnKt9nZt8g7krCcEJccJhcl3E37unbVzMPYeiTL_O-WHb0Ifaipmj6KNAFkl7rubGY-rvIuaND9sq65_1fwngfDI9Qmhbt4asMMcjL5Zd8DeAf1PnFI6B6mbgtYncqMtWf2ZYURKfyToPFm1v67OlCJfhScU9xTHNTKFBWVTXhytuV0LhUvqKWgUw5X1Dmuins3YTPxUTfpUqppdmMNWiSHVKIdZLr0GtaMDFTjSkwCQfjk9CLZVgm1PjbMMlL8bTbwaSzAkpDtOLEcB56GPVj0HoG2FHyRtuzEJy4yp3bdj7j_ThqQ97Qp47bclSyVQTuv6eHiHVLdhQNqgOJ8JSJSkWpB9_IVEge0V-6rpccIsNlXnkmiGoxXyqGwCaig1FXFf4vQhDFIfO7YJrL_kYKvUgCrJuoCl678fchn2j7Teojig27QBOCvqX4dpKjzvapbFjiG0JTc>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> EXERPT:
>> RIDs are not for citing ideas or data since well-developed cita tion
>> systems already exist for that. Instead, RRID numbers are created by
>> repositories that distribute the research resource, such as Addgene for
>> plasmids, or the National Xenopus Resource for transgenic frogs.
>> <giac058.pdf>
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>> --
>> Daniel S. Katz
>> Chief Scientist, NCSA
>> Research Associate Professor, CS
>> Research Associate Professor, ECE
>> Research Associate Professor, iSchool
>> University of Illinois
>> (217) 244-8000
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>> https://danielskatz.org
>>
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