[Esip-semanticharmonization] [EXT]Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 2020 ESIP Summer Meeting - Time to Set up our Schedule

Kai Blumberg kblumberg at email.arizona.edu
Fri Jul 10 12:35:48 EDT 2020


John was flattered but didn't express a strong interest either way if we
were to ask him it'd have to be soon. Does everyone think the agenda is too
full or would there still be space in the session? If so we can try
inviting him.



On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:00 AM Mark Schildhauer <schild at nceas.ucsb.edu>
wrote:

> *External Email*
> Hi Kai,
>
> Thanks for your follow-up note about our inviting John Deck to speak about
> Darwin Core and TDWG's initiatives to build semantic vocabularies.
>
> Megan said she is okay with it if we get her a name today.
>
> What do others feel about giving John 5 minutes to talk about vocabulary
> initiatives within the Biodiversity realm?
>
> That connection is extremely important to most any researcher studying how
> the physical environment relates to the biosphere, at least if they need to
> "name" the affected entities in the biosphere, clarify how these entities
> are related, or connect them to physical samples (specimens) or sequences.
>
> cheers,
> Mark
> -----
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> Co-PI, Arctic Data Center
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>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 3:36 PM Kai Blumberg <kblumberg at email.arizona.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> I briefly mentioned to John that you were thinking about this (I had a
>> meeting with him today), he appreciated that you were thinking of him :P.
>> But I think from my understanding of what Megan said, it might be too late
>> for Esip to hand out free admission to new speakers and or they are out of
>> guest invite slots/ the deadline has passed? My understanding too is that
>> we've already got several speakers for the visioning session. Thus I'm
>> guessing it might be too late to invite him now.
>>
>> If you want to try though, I think you should ask Megan if it's possible
>> otherwise he might have to register/pay himself.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kai
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 2:38 PM Mark Schildhauer <schild at nceas.ucsb.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *External Email*
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Since I didn't hear back from anyone about my last query, I'm assuming
>>> this is an implicit "let's not", so I won't invite anyone from TDWG to our
>>> ESIP session...
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Mark
>>> -----
>>> Mark Schildhauer, PhD
>>> Center Associate
>>> Director of Computing (ret.)
>>> Co-PI, Arctic Data Center
>>> ORCID:  0000-0003-0632-7576 <https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0632-7576>
>>> National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, NCEAS, UCSB
>>> 735 State St., Suite 300
>>> Santa Barbara CA 93101
>>> Email: schild at nceas dot ucsb dot edu
>>> Web: http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu; http://arcticdata.io
>>> <http://arcticdata.io/>; http://lternet.edu
>>> NOTE CHANGE-- Ph: 805-886-9526  FAX: 805-893-7541
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:58 PM Mark Schildhauer <schild at nceas.ucsb.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Following up on our discussion today, I heard back from Ramona Walls
>>>> about recommendations regarding whom we might invite from the TDWG
>>>> (Biodiversity Information Standards) Community for the Semantic
>>>> Harmonization "Digital Knowledge Commons" effort.
>>>>
>>>> The idea was for one of their developers to learn more about the
>>>> Semantic activities underway at ESIP, as TDWG has long (for too long) been
>>>> on the threshold of converting their DarwinCore "standard" (
>>>> https://www.gbif.org/darwin-core) to something more semantic.
>>>>
>>>> However, I think if we do invite someone, they should not just be a
>>>> participant, but invited to present on their semantic vocabulary approaches
>>>> (i.e. 5 mins?).
>>>> Something like:
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Hi,
>>>> We are convening a session at the upcoming virtual ESIP meetings (July
>>>> 14-24) on "Building a Digital Knowledge Commons", that will be discussing
>>>> ways in which we can improve on the interoperability and sustainability of
>>>> semantic controlled vocabulary efforts underway in the earth and
>>>> environmental sciences.  Your involvement with building vocabularies on
>>>> behalf of the Biodiversity community is highly relevant in connecting
>>>> scientific observations of the physical environment with the biological
>>>> environment.
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for this late notice, but we would like to invite you to give
>>>> a brief presentation (5 minutes) of your relevant work at our session,
>>>> which runs on Wed, Jul 22 from 08:30-10:00PDT.  Ideally this would focus on
>>>> Darwin Core, and its latest extensions. The normal $200 registration for
>>>> attendance would be waived of course, and you would be welcome to attend
>>>> any other sessions that might be of interest, including a number that are
>>>> addressing the challenges and rewards of building semantic vocabularies.
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?  I think it would be great to get the Biodiversity
>>>> community on-board-- they think a LOT about specimens (e.g. in museums),
>>>> but also any physical samples with biological content, PLUS they are slowly
>>>> moving into "occurrences"-- that is, observations of biodiversity in nature
>>>> ("partridge in a pear tree").
>>>>
>>>> Based on Ramona's suggestions, and my familiarity with several of the
>>>> possibilities, I think we should directly invite John Deck, and ask him to
>>>> recommend a second if he cannot make it...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for quick feedback on this plan:  Yes or No
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mark Schildhauer, PhD
>>>> Center Associate
>>>> Director of Computing (ret.)
>>>> Co-PI, Arctic Data Center
>>>> ORCID:  0000-0003-0632-7576 <https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0632-7576>
>>>> National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, NCEAS, UCSB
>>>> 735 State St., Suite 300
>>>> Santa Barbara CA 93101
>>>> Email: schild at nceas dot ucsb dot edu
>>>> Web: http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu; http://arcticdata.io
>>>> <http://arcticdata.io/>; http://lternet.edu
>>>> NOTE CHANGE-- Ph: 805-886-9526  FAX: 805-893-7541
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 11:54 AM Pier Luigi Buttigieg <
>>>> pbuttigi at mpi-bremen.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We're talking about the structure of the session in the Semantic
>>>>> Harmonization call just now - can you join?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/800617765
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IFA6AsCdxESh9mZB5W1bZ_vARFkF3OvnL-KgdGNcp60/edit#heading=h.cjga7xt6rilo
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/07/2020 20:41, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (172B) wrote:
>>>>> > Additionally I think we should update the sched session description
>>>>> either the session structure.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:03, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (172B) <
>>>>> lewis.j.mcgibbney at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ok great. So sounds like we need to submit speaker exemption
>>>>> requests for both James Overton and John Graybeal. Currently neither are
>>>>> registered or were planning to register.
>>>>> >> Anyone else?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 09:54, Pier Luigi Buttigieg <
>>>>> pbuttigi at mpi-bremen.de> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>>>> On 07/07/2020 18:41, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (172B) wrote:
>>>>> >>>> This all relates to the following session… correct?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__2020esipsummermeeting.sched.com_event_cIuT_visioning-2Dan-2Doperational-2Dgrade-2Ddigital-2Dknowledge-2Dcommons-2Dfor-2Dearth-2Dand-2Denvironmental-2Dscience&d=DwIDaQ&c=frcPxg8b67XqRBSg4Sq0SNY3JWw9kiBusXbl0-DuPio&r=mbPNoXznnUv_FAnuyX3TNrFoZyX7VUtqLZve_Oiyk-o&m=EeGkRyAD3svDXqkXM0Ov_PXfBJVVTEOuRSSBPGgKFO8&s=o2NR1vmjNcoXuhOss661XulvVLuRKf774sFJQBGE_6g&e=
>>>>> >>> I believe so.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> What more do we need from James Overton that was covered within
>>>>> the following thread -
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21topic_obo-2Dtools_AApw7i3UeJk&d=DwIDaQ&c=frcPxg8b67XqRBSg4Sq0SNY3JWw9kiBusXbl0-DuPio&r=mbPNoXznnUv_FAnuyX3TNrFoZyX7VUtqLZve_Oiyk-o&m=EeGkRyAD3svDXqkXM0Ov_PXfBJVVTEOuRSSBPGgKFO8&s=G2RSMwi-b2Aymv6K4d390OOgL9Lhb6gYzvx5znEE2LE&e=
>>>>> ?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>> I'm thinking a short presentation to summarise that thread - makes
>>>>> a difference to have it spoken and shown.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> I think John Graybeal covering OntoPortal would be a good option.
>>>>> This has been brought up a few times.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>> +1
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> We need to submit speaker exceptions for any speakers that have
>>>>> no already registered for ESIP. I’ve confirmed with John Graybeal that he
>>>>> can make the above session slot.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>> Yes, I think first time attendees (like James) can be comped.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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