[Esip-semanticharmonization] [EXT]Re: ESIP summer session for Semantic Harmonization?

[Gary Berg-Cross]

Brandon, Kathe et al

Soil  Bulk Density mentioned by Brandon has seemed to be a topic around
which some conceptualization and definitional work might start with.
It is understood in terms of basic physical volume and mass concepts which
have associated measurement techniques.
 Related methods are used for other characteristics and bulk density is
just one way to classify soil.  So we get into soil classification.
 Together this fit into the larger topic of soil quality and health as we
look at the soil content, parent material, soil organic matter and its
components, secondary nutrients etc.
I image we can look at  functions and processes like water infiltration,
drainage and storage, nutrient-holding capacity and release depending on
the focus of  interests.

Gary Berg-Cross Ph.D.
Consultant
Potomac, MD
240-426-0770


On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 5:43 PM Brandon Whitehead <
whiteheadb at landcareresearch.co.nz> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My comments in line below.
>
>
> On 4/10/21 3:06 AM, Todd-Brown, Kathe wrote:
> > No current plans for summer session on my end. I will say that the Soils
> > group seems to be having trouble figuring out an actual action plan.
>
> ...
>
> > All this is to say that I would be very interested in other people’s
> > thoughts on how to structure community events/engagement around semantic
> > tool application, curation, extension, and creation.
>
> It's really tough without explicit funding. One option may be to use the
> SM session as a working session for the properties you have highlighted
> in previous meetings (soil bulk density and others).
>
> More on this below.
>
> >
> > *From: *Gary Berg-Cross <gbergcross at gmail.com>
> > *Date: *Friday, April 9, 2021 at 10:58 AM
>
> > Here are some of my thoughts.
> >
> > We have talked about kicking off some type collaborative
> > semantic harmonization activities with the Bio, Marine and/or Soil
> clusters.
> Each probably has its advantages.
> >
> > The Marine has probably been talked about the longest and just had a
> > meeting scheduled Thursday.  Is that still active and if so did anyone
> > attend that?
>
> I have a conflict during that time period so I'm typically not able to
> attend.
>
> >    The Soil cluster is currently the one I personally attend and see
> > most activity in but not using a semantic harmonization approach.
>
> This is an interesting observation.  I think this is exactly what they
> are doing.  The main difference I see is that group is starting from a
> plethora of data artifacts that require some interoperability versus
> attempting to reconcile domain knowledge --- which they will need to do
> once they choose a path (as Kathe has highlighted).
>
> I've had to be away for a time so perhaps this view is out-dated.
>
> >
> >   If we are talking about surfacing this at the Summer Session after we
> > start with a cluster we might have progress to show.
> >
> > But given scant resources we might only have time to show progress with
> > one of these cluster areas.  We might need some low hanging fruit to
> > start with such as an agreed upon list of 20-30 terms with working
> > definitions to start and an Ontology to relate these to.
>
> This is an option.  Is there time to make sufficient progress?
>
> Another option would be to treat the SM session as the first stage in an
> ontology building workshop.  In my experience, this would mean getting
> as many soil'd folks ( :) ) in the 'room' as possible and record their
> discussion about the concepts they are interested in and how they are
> related.  We can use a virtual white board and/or CMap (or like) tools
> to try and capture in situ --- if there are people willing to do this.
> After the session we will have a recorded archive which can be
> referenced as we strive to formalize what was described in the session.
>
> I used the soil science domain here as the example but this same style
> of session could apply to Marine or Bio.
>
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:11 AM Kai Blumberg via
> > Esip-semanticharmonization <esip-semanticharmonization at lists.esipfed.org
> > <mailto:esip-semanticharmonization at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Maybe we want to invite some of those folks @Brandon Whitehead
> >     <mailto:WhiteheadB at landcareresearch.co.nz> or others have in mind to
> >     our regular meeting on the 14th, in order to discuss planning such a
> >     session?
> Yes, absolutely this^
> I would be happy to take the lead, however, now that the clocks have
> changed the Semantic Harmonization meetings become really difficult for
> me to attend.  I believe I can make the necessary arrangements long
> term, but next week's meeting may still be problematic.
>
> If there is interest in the soils domain then this becomes less of an
> issue as Gary and Mark have also been participating.
>
> Cheers,
> /Brandon
> ------
> Brandon Whitehead
> Environmental Data Scientist
> Manaaki Whenua --- Landcare Research
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