[Esip-citationguidelines] Data citation meeting tomorrow

[Daniel S. Katz]

fwiw, transitive credit is mostly thinking, not implementation, so I'm sure lots of details have been missed or are wrong - the idea is in https://doi.org/10.5334/jors.be <https://doi.org/10.5334/jors.be> and https://doi.org/10.5334/jors.by <https://doi.org/10.5334/jors.by>

Dan

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Parsons, Mark via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I encourage you to also read Bruce’s essay about his concerns with the RDA Dynamic Data Citation Recommendation https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vfV32AZR4pnTwQZEM9Cw_Criq-2vJUvyKIQIEWu92AE/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vfV32AZR4pnTwQZEM9Cw_Criq-2vJUvyKIQIEWu92AE/edit?usp=sharing> 
> 
> I don’t fully agree with his assessment, but we should discuss. Besides, I don’t see a good model yet in place for fine grained credit. See Dan Katz’s work on transitive credit as well.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> -m. 
> 
>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 15:49, Parsons, Mark via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Friends,
>> 
>> I have a near complete draft of the revised data citation guidelines
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DjM8SBJOOSSwANoOmW6arN-KiwAv1895K0tZkLU5sxs/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DjM8SBJOOSSwANoOmW6arN-KiwAv1895K0tZkLU5sxs/edit?usp=sharing>
>> 
>> Sorry for the late notice, but please review prior to the meeting tomorrow, 7 Feb. at 10 Pacific/13 Eastern. We’ll just walk through the comments and suggestions, and maybe we can finalize things.
>> 
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>> Notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ooEixbchKp-qgAG7qtnebKrWDYsutt4d2eX3HsaWls/edit?usp=sharing> 
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>> 
>> One thing I discovered in the process, is that the DCC has substantially revised their guidelines since last time:
>> http://www.dcc.ac.uk/resources/how-guides/cite-datasets#sec:units <http://www.dcc.ac.uk/resources/how-guides/cite-datasets#sec:units>
>> 
>> I wish I had know this earlier. The document is a vast improvement from their earlier version, is very well-referenced (albeit biased to European work), and has more detail. In many ways their guidelines are better than ours. The only big difference is that their versioning approach is still not very useful for rapidly updating time series. Also they don’t have the nice metadata mapping that we do, or any discussion of schema.org <http://schema.org/>. I encourage you all to read the document before our meeting. 
>> 
>> Some things to note:
>> - They have additional core elements, including a UNF, “Edition” as well as ‘version', and an ISO standard used to reference subsets that we should consider. They also explicitly separate ‘identifier' and ‘location’ (although they don’t reference us).
>> - They recommend the use of identifiers for people and organizations.
>> - They provide a little bit of guidance on granularity.
>> - They have guidance on referencing physical data
>> - They have some (slightly dated) guidance on citation tracking and notification. Perhaps we could include this in version 1.2. I am especially intrigued by the W3C Linked Data Notification (LDN) standard
>> 
>> Talk soon.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> -m. 
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