[Esip-discovery] [EXTERNAL] Re: Presentation for AGU

[Robert Downs]

Hi Chris and all,

Looking at slide 9, where the application and the article are both linked
to the dataset, I am wondering whether, from a discovery perspective, the
article, in that diagram, might be replaced with a database of articles
that cited the data for a particular application. Accessing such a database
of relevant articles would allow the potential user to identify the
different ways in which the data were used for the application, enabling
them to determine which use would be appropriate for their own purposes.

Thanks,

Bob

Robert R. Downs, PhD
Senior Digital Archivist and Senior Staff Associate Officer of Research
Acting Head of Cyberinfrastructure and Informatics Research and Development
Center for International Earth Science Information Network (CIESIN),
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:45 AM Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-5860) via
Esip-discovery <esip-discovery at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

> Mark,
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> Yes, the point on “dataset citations” (vs…dataset identification?) is well
> taken. I myself vacillate back and forth. On the one hand, we need the
> identification of datasets to enable the basic discovery process.
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> OTOH, there are other potential benefits from this database of
> relationships, such as acknowledging the reuse of prior art (i.e., the
> input data products), enabling reproducibility and formal provenance that
> nudge me over toward the citation camp.  It might make for an interesting
> discussion…
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> Christopher Lynnes   NASA/GSFC    mobile: 410-231-4573
> “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
> there is nothing left to take away.” A. de St. Exupery
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> On 10/20/20, 23:45, "Mark Parsons" <parsonsm.work at icloud.com> wrote:
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> Hi Chris and crew,
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> I’ve just been a lurker in this group but I love where you’ve got to.
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> The fact that foragers (nice term) "Need better data citation practices in
> Applications” and the general need for "Automated Harvesting of
> Relationships" is certainly something the citation cluster would be
> interested in working on too.
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> Mind, let’s be careful about the term ‘citation’ which generally means
> reference, credit, and access .It’s often necessary to be more
> explicit.  Separating concerns and audiences is kinda the theme of our
> group.
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> cheers,
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> -m.
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> On 20 Oct 2020, at 16:51, Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-5860) via
> Esip-discovery <esip-discovery at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1wVA2Ou9mwz7W-2Da5xur-2DnQZilSJim7kaaTSMxdNFeijc_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=wGUjZntCVZd_0RfHkUyi5nt60hYIHfuz8TuYqGTTTOIC3GyzxW-xjOqs-Ck3ToTH&m=1kJtNTgbLKV3Go-UUyNUfa--3IUocgYu1ygSUTC70E4&s=W4p5gL5M1hOTvcH_4HD0rT3zAgi2UpRRS0gf3Nlqamg&e=
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> If you see anything glaring, please comment ASAP.  I have to turn this in
> on Thursday (actually tomorrow, but that would be unrealistic.)
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> Thanks!
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> “I love it when a plan comes together.” — Hannibal Smith
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