[Esip-preserve] DataCite to require "landing pages"

[Mark A. Parsons]

Remember this is just for the citation. So the typical use case is someone reading a paper who then wants to follow up on a reference. The user who already knows about the data may have multiple means of access including direct machine access, but that's a different situation than someonen following up a reference.

Cheers,

-m. 
On 29 Feb 2012, at 2:59 PM, Bruce Barkstrom wrote:

> Any thoughts about lightening the load on the user if
> he or she if familiar with the site and has downloaded
> other files before?  Why does a user like that need the
> full collection of metadata?
> 
> Bruce B.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kenneth S. Casey <kenneth.casey at noaa.gov> wrote:
> Jeff,
> 
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Dr.Jeff de La Beaujardiere wrote:
> 
>> Can an ISO 19139 (XML) metadata record serve as a landing page?
>> If not, what about HTML produced from the XML using a stylesheet?
> 
> Sure... that is basically what a lot of portal systems do right now, with ISO or FGDC.  We in fact fought the battle with data.gov to get them to allow us to have their "one-click to data" policy mean "one-click to the landing page", since pointing a user directly to a binary data file is a completely stupid thing to do. Without the metadata, the user has no idea what they are being "one-clicked" to.  Even if it is a well-structued netCDF with lots of internal metadata it is not generally a good idea.
> 
> Ken
> 
>> 
>> -Jeff DLB
>> 
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>> 
>> On 2012-02-22 12:55, Greg Janée wrote:
>>> There are some changes brewing at DataCite regarding DOI requirements. Per Joan
>>> Starr:
>>> 
>>> "There is a very strong push within the group for a requirement that all DOIs
>>> point to landing pages and not to the object directly. [For submitters that
>>> don't provide their own landing pages] DataCite is going to create canned
>>> landing pages based on the metadata that submitters provide."
>>> 
>>> What constitutes a "landing page"? Again, per Joan:
>>> 
>>> "The landing page typically contains one or more of the following:
>>> +full citation of the data
>>> +statement on access to data (such as a link to the data or usage restriction
>>> information)
>>> +associated metadata
>>> +information, software, or context required for unpackaging, reading and
>>> interpreting the data"
>>> 
>>> I'm curious what this group thinks about this requirement. It certainly narrows
>>> the scope of applicability for DOIs.
>>> 
>>> -Greg
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