[Esip-preserve] How to cite the works of the committee

[Bruce Barkstrom]

Mark's URL is correct for citing the CACM article.

While Jeff may have a limited vision on the issue, if you're interested
in the connections between economics, citation indexes, and citations,
you may find some interesting material by exploring a Google search
on the topic

Economics of scholarly electronic publication

It looks like there's a nice concise summary of some material on this
in what I believe is a 2010 Web reference

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/Collections/crisis.htmlhttp://www.lib.berkeley.edu/Collections/crisis.html

The original reference that I think still has some bite is from the
Association
of Research Libraries in 2001 (I incorrectly remembered this as appearing in
DLIB, but the ARL reference is correct.  I think you can get this free):

http://www.arl.org/resources/pubs/mmproceedings/138guedon.shtml

One question that may be of interest is the economic return on investment
(ROI) for both the time data producers and archives have to put in on
building and
maintaining citations and both the impact on research and the economics
of the time researchers or other data users spend or save as a result of
having citations.  My impression is that this "hard-nosed" approach hasn't
been dealt with - although my research is still quite fragmentary and
incomplete.
In this case the basic question is - apart from a high-minded appeal for
making
sure scientists SHOULD provide scholarly citations, how much or our research
budget should be invested in this area because there is a real savings in
people's time and effort.  [And no - I'm not a Republican!]

Jeff doesn't have to do any searching or read anything I've suggested.

Bruce B.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark A. Parsons <parsonsm at nsidc.org> wrote:

> And here's the article Bruce mentions (may require subscription).
> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2012/7/151235-predatory-scholarly-publishing/fulltext
>
> Interesting at a time when AGU has just partnered with a commercial
> publisher.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -m.
> On 31 Aug 2012, at 11:04 AM, Jeff de La Beaujardiere wrote:
>
> > On 2012-08-31 10:17, Bruce Barkstrom wrote:
> >> There's been some interesting discussion about the economics of
> citations
> >> in several places.  I seem to recall a discussion back about 2001 in
> DLib
> >> where publishing companies (Elsevier, et al.) were using citations to
> squeeze
> >> libraries.  More recently, there was an editorial in CACM on predatory
> scholarship.
> >
> > Off topic: My curiosity about your mention of "predatory scholarship"
> led me to this web site by an academic librarian trying to identify bogus
> for-profit journals and publishers: http://ScholarlyOA.com/ <
> http://scholarlyoa.com/>
> >
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