[Esip-preserve] EarthCube Data Citation workshop?

Ruth Duerr via Esip-preserve esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
Mon May 12 01:19:06 EDT 2014

Hi Kerstin,

That's great!  I'll let you know if the workshop is approved.  It wasn't entirely clear whether the audience would have enough scientists interested in learning how to cite data, so I don't know that it will be scheduled.

I actually note that I am a member of the working group that you mentioned.  

I do wonder if you've compared IEDA's guidelines to the ESIP guidelines?  I haven't done that yet.  I note that the ESIP guidelines were vetted through an extensive process involving many repositories and many users bringing datasets to workshops to work out what the citation should be, before the set of guidelines as a whole were approved by the ESIP general assembly. As a result, they already represent the consensus of a large number of data providers; but that doesn't mean that the suite of guidelines cover all possible use cases.  I'd be interested to know whether IEDA's guidelines are consistent already or whether the ESIP guidelines will need to be updated to handle another use case.  There is a well defined process for that and it would be good to make the ESIP guidelines as comprehensive as possible.


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> On May 11, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Kerstin Lehnert <lehnert at ldeo.columbia.edu> wrote:
> I would be there and would like to help. I think that this should be an
> activity that other stakeholder groups in EarthCube, particularly the
> Council of Data Facilities, should be involved with. The data facilities
> (as far as I remember) wanted some sort of a working group on data
> citation at the January meeting, so it would be good to coordinate.
> Several facilities such as IEDA already have policies and guidelines in
> place for data citation, so gathering that information before the workshop
> would be essential.
> Kerstin
> Dr. Kerstin Lehnert
> Director, Integrated Earth Data Applications
> Director, EarthChem
> President, IGSN e.V.
> Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
> Columbia University
> Palisades, NY, 10964
> (845) 365-8506
> http://www.iedadata.org
> http://www.earthchem.org
> http://www.igsn.org
> On 5/11/14 19:38 PM, "Denise Hills via Esip-preserve"
> <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>> I won¹t be there, either - I have about 6 conflicting commitments that
>> week, and this is probably 5th on that list, unfortunately.
>> On May 9, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Ruth Duerr via Esip-preserve
>> <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Sorry for canceling today¹s telecon; but I didn¹t have any real agenda
>>> items and I suspect everyone is very busy.  However, I do have a
>>> question and/or request of you all.  I¹d like to know how many of you
>>> are likely to attend the EarthCube workshop in DC this June?  I ask as I
>>> am contemplating holding a small data citation hackathon there since
>>> I¹ve been hearing that the science community needs advice on that and
>>> folks in my EarthCube project have been egging me on to do it.  The idea
>>> would be to discuss the ESIP guidelines for the first 30 min or so which
>>> I can do, then spend the next 60 min or so taking example data sets from
>>> the audience and working through creating a citation and providing
>>> advice on where to deposit data so that you can be assigned a DOI, and
>>> what information should be included so that the data actually is
>>> reusable (i.e., so others might actually reuse and cite it).  I am
>>> thinking that it would be good to have a few people from this Committee
>>> in addition to myself there to help support that effort.  Any takers?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ruth
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