[Esip-preserve] potential NYT editorial on data

Thu May 4 15:10:17 EDT 2017

I know back from my days at USGCRP that this was a big issue - departments
have legislative affairs people who handle all interactions with congress.
I don't know if our instance would qualify.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Joe Hourcle <oneiros at grace.nascom.nasa.gov>
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 4 May 2017, Justin Goldstein - NOAA Affiliate wrote:
>
> Would there be an issue with someone from the exec branch submitting to
>> "the Hill" (i.e., separation of powers?)
>>
>
> I don't know.  It might just require something as simple as stating that
> these are personal opinions, and not necessarily those of your employers'.
>
> If they try to supress it entirely, there are issues of stepping on your
> first amendment rights.  (it came up w/ my response to the GSA re: the
> HTTPS-Only bullshit ... which they're forcing through anyway, and
> SPECIFICALLY requiring us to use 301 redirects, which breaks SOAP services
> (as it changes POSTs to GETs)
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Joe Hourcle via Esip-preserve <
>> esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 May 2017, Matthew Mayernik via Esip-preserve wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>> I have not heard from the NYT, so according to their auto-response we
>>>> can
>>>> assume they do not want it. Any suggestions for next steps? EOS is an
>>>> obvious possibility, but anybody want to argue for something else?
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No specific ideas, unfortunately, but I think it needs to go into a
>>> periodical that's not focused on scientists -- as that's just preaching
>>> to
>>> the choir.
>>>
>>> Washington Post might get it into the eyes of more people, but it's
>>> considered to have a liberal bent, so might get dismissed without reading
>>> from the folks currently in power.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the Washington Times takes editorials.  I know one person there,
>>> as she used to cover our town back before I was Town Commissioner ...
>>> but I
>>> haven't seen her in ~9 years or so ... and she covers crime & such:
>>>
>>>         http://www.washingtontimes.com/staff/andrea-noble/
>>>
>>> ... I'm afraid they might be a little *too* conservative to accept it,
>>> based on the "most popular" stuff they have in the sidebar right now.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't read it, but supposedly 'The Hill' is read by a lot of members of
>>> Congress.  They have a form if you want to be a 'contributor' :
>>>
>>>         http://thehill.com/contributor-application-form
>>>
>>>
>>> There's also Politico, The Atlantic ... but I don't know if they take
>>> editorials.  I know that WTOP and Federal News Radio don't.
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all. I did submit the article this afternoon. The submitted doc
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> attached for your reference. I added a basic preliminary title, but the
>>>>> NYT
>>>>> op-ed guidance says that NYT will choose the title, so that's not
>>>>> important. They sent me an auto-response that said that we should know
>>>>> within 3 business days, and that if we don't hear by then, we can
>>>>> assume
>>>>> they don't want it and submit elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for all of your input,
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Parsons, Mark <parsom3 at rpi.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well done, sir. You demonstrated exemplary inclusivity, leadership, and
>>>>>
>>>>>> compelling writing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fingers crossed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -m.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 19:34, Matthew Mayernik via Esip-preserve <
>>>>>> esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Thanks for all of your input. I've gone through your comments and
>>>>>> edits
>>>>>> and have a much improved draft. As I mentioned, I think timeliness is
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> important than the exact wording at this point, so I'd like to call it
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> enough, and ready to submit. I'll try to get it in today, not soon
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> for this weekend, but potentially for next week if they like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I've had a few side conversations about authorship. I don't know
>>>>>> NYT policies on authorship, but if they accept, I will work with them
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find some way to indicate the group authorship, either in the by-line
>>>>>> or as
>>>>>> an added sentence somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've put together a potential submission to the New York Times as a
>>>>>>> follow-on to our data rescue document. Mark Parsons and Ruth Duerr
>>>>>>> provided
>>>>>>> a very helpful first edit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given that the chances of being accepted are very slim, and largely
>>>>>>> hinge on the timeliness of the topic, at this point I'd ask that you
>>>>>>> focus
>>>>>>> any feedback on 1) factual corrections, and/or 2) key calls to
>>>>>>> action,
>>>>>>> e.g.
>>>>>>> what would we hopefully want people to do as a result of reading the
>>>>>>> article. If it is accepted, the NYT would have major input in the
>>>>>>> final
>>>>>>> column, so wordsmithing at this stage isn't necessary. For these
>>>>>>> reasons, I
>>>>>>> made the doc comment-only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please do send any objections, however, to the idea of doing a NYT
>>>>>>> editorial in the first place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SGJnqaSqOK8UGsTATAicyTH_
>>>>>>> W5rmBW6lSSZ8vLvN4iA/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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