[esip-semantictech] ESIP's Vision for the Future of Cyberinfrastructure

Thu Jan 24 15:47:59 EST 2019

Yes, I will…. Though first we have to agree on times for Jan. 31!!!  @Pier, @Chuck, @Gary - I am shining like 10 am - 2 pm Mountain time?  Or is that too late for Pier?  If we agree on a time I will set up the zoom.

Ruth

> On Jan 24, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (398M) <Lewis.J.McGibbney at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
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> Thanks Beth.
> I agree with all you say below and I was quite honestly both impressed and shocked at the amount of preparatory work which had gone into making last weeks sessions successful. I think those that participated learned more about just how challenging and time consuming this is.
> I would be happy to keep the vision and activity within SemTech then. Can you guys post your telecon details so that other folks can join if they so wish?
> Thank you
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> Dr. Lewis John McGibbney Ph.D., B.Sc.
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> From: Ruth Duerr <ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:25 PM
> To: "Mcgibbney, Lewis J (398M)" <Lewis.J.McGibbney at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Cc: "esip-semanticweb at lists.esipfed.org" <esip-semanticweb at lists.esipfed.org>
> Subject: Re: [esip-semantictech] ESIP's Vision for the Future of Cyberinfrastructure
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> Ooohhh…. I remember working on that document!
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> I don’t know that it needs to be a separate cluster, though I think we sort of agreed to start one up at last week’s meeting.  The main issue is that in many cases the sort of work the WMO folks paid me to do (i.e., look at the various definitions out there in the science community and see what the issues are) needs someone with some reasonable understanding of the discipline(s) and it really isn’t a volunteer type activity (unless done at a really slow rate).  It took me months to do the work I did on the GCW glossaries.  Now yes, @Gary, @Pier, @Chuck, etc. are planning on continuing what we were doing at a fairly slow rate… (a mini hackathon once a month); but is that really a cluster activity?  I don’t know.
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> I do know that once the Cryospheric work is done, other “domain experts” will need to be found if the work is to proceed further!  I do think that Anne Thessen might do that for the bio and environmental parts of SWEET and ENVO; but SWEET is bigger than just her and my fields...
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> Ruth
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> On Jan 24, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (398M) via esip-semanticweb <esip-semanticweb at lists.esipfed.org <mailto:esip-semanticweb at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
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> Hi Folks,
> Whilst browsing for unrelated content, I came across the following document [0] which a few of our community members contributed towards.
> Specifically, page 2 provides a very significant response to the following question “Question 1 Research Challenge(s) (maximum ~1200 words): Describe current or emerging science or engineering research challenge(s), providing context in terms of recent research activities and standing questions in the field.”
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> The quoted response is as follows…
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> “Semantic Understanding Across Communities: One of the major inhibitors of interoperability is the semantic heterogeneity of the language and concepts used within different disciplines. Language differences developed over decades as each discipline progressed on its separate path. Often the terms used gloss over the significant underlying assumptions and tacit knowledge within that discipline, concepts that are simply taken for granted within that field. As such, simply learning to communicate with researchers in other disciplines can take considerable time. These language differences make it difficult for researchers to find, assess and properly use data originated by another discipline. To facilitate transformative interdisciplinary science, interdisciplinary semantic infrastructure is needed. Ideally one day infrastructure would assess the knowledge base of each user and translate from the semantic knowledge base of the data producer to that of the user to appropriately tailor the services provided (e.g., data search, browse, assessment and access capabilities). While progress is being made in semantics through several paths including both traditional ontology development and Natural Language Process and Machine Learning techniques, the first step is to ensure that the semantic resources created for various fields are curated and maintained for the indefinite future.”
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> In my opinion, this would substantiate the creation of an ESIP cluster (or some sustained effort) dedicated to addressing the heterogeneity of the language and concepts used within different disciplines e.g. ESIP Vocabulary Hackers or something similar. It jumps out at me that it would be somewhat counterintuitive for a structured effort NOT to be initiated if in fact an ESIP-blessed response to a nationwide NSF RFI states that this is one of the primary issues contributing towards known ongoing research challenges!
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> @Ruth and @Pierre, @Gary, @Chuck, etc. the work you are all doing with SWEET and ENVO seems like the driving effort which would justify the creation of the cluster. Is there an interest or should the work be kept within SemTech?
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> Thanks
> Lewis
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> [0] https://doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.4831627.v1 <https://doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.4831627.v1>
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> Dr. Lewis John McGibbney Ph.D., B.Sc.
> Data Scientist II
> Computer Science for Data Intensive Applications Group (398M)
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> California Institute of Technology 
> 4800 Oak Grove Drive
> Pasadena, California 91109-8099
> Mail Stop : 158-256C
> Tel:  (+1) (818)-393-7402
> Cell: (+1) (626)-487-3476
> Fax:  (+1) (818)-393-1190
> Email: lewis.j.mcgibbney at jpl.nasa.gov <mailto:lewis.j.mcgibbney at jpl.nasa.gov>
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