[Esip-sustainabledm] Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan study to develop ROI for data centers?

Dave Vieglais vieglais at ku.edu
Fri Jan 8 07:59:53 EST 2016 

Hi Anne,
The information I have from Dan (email 16:49 yesterday):

Room is MADISON B, time 11am. 

WebEx: Sustainable Data Management
Friday, January 8, 2016|11:00 am, Eastern Standard Time (GMT-05:00)|3 hours
Host:ESIP Host (SBA/Education)
Audio connection:
1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada)
1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)
1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)*
Host access code: 231 363 47
Attendee access code: 231 403 58




On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:26, Anne Wilson via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:

> I did a quick search but did not see where this meeting is scheduled.
> Please resend?  Thank you!
>
> Anne
>
> On 1/7/16 6:35 PM, "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org"
> <esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your note, Cyndy.  I would say that all are welcome, and that
>> the
>> room is big enough that other discussions besides those related to ROI
>> could
>> happen at the same time, if desired.   Do note, however, that the ROI
>> group
>> will be discussing the feasibility of replicating the studies related to
>> "The Value and Impact of Data Sharing and Curation" studies done by
>> organizations in the UK including Jisc and others.  If you're interested
>> in
>> joining that part of the conversation and reviewing the background
>> information, you can find the summary of the studies at the following URL:
>> http://repository.jisc.ac.uk/5568/1/iDF308_-_Digital_Infrastructure_Direct
>> io
>> ns_Report%2C_Jan14_v1-04.pdf .
>>
>> Dan Keyes has sent out the webex information previously, so I won't repeat
>> that.  Looking forward to the discussion tomorrow!
>> Regards,
>> Nancy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Esip-sustainabledm
>> [mailto:esip-sustainabledm-bounces at lists.esipfed.org] On Behalf Of Parr,
>> Cynthia - ARS via Esip-sustainabledm
>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:51 PM
>> To: esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org
>> Subject: Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER
>> to
>> plan study to develop ROI for data centers?
>>
>> I should be in the Agriculture etc. session but I will try to split my
>> time.
>>
>> To clarify, some of us are assuming that any of the sustainable data
>> management people will gather at this time and place, not just the ROI
>> group. We wouldn¹t want to hijack discussions but we want to stay in the
>> loop.
>>
>> On 1/7/16, 3:39 PM, "Esip-sustainabledm on behalf of Robert R. Downs via
>> Esip-sustainabledm" <esip-sustainabledm-bounces at lists.esipfed.org on
>> behalf
>> of esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I will be presenting during the IQ session at the same time, but look
>>> forward to hearing about the session later.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Robert R. Downs, PhD
>>> Senior Digital Archivist and Senior Staff Associate Officer of Research
>>> Center for International Earth Science Information Network (CIESIN),
>>> The Earth Institute, Columbia University P.O. Box 1000, 61 Route 9W,
>>> Palisades, NY 10964 USA
>>> Voice: 845-365-8985; fax: 845-365-8922
>>> E-mail: rdowns at ciesin.columbia.edu
>>> Columbia University CIESIN Web site: http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu
>>>
>>> On 1/7/2016 12:06 PM, Margaret O'Brien via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
>>>> I will join remotely also; that time is fine.
>>>> I was planning to listen in on the CDF session that morning, but
>>>> would drop out of that for this.
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>> Margaret O'Brien
>>>> Information Management
>>>> Santa Barbara Coastal LTER
>>>> Marine Science Institute, UCSB
>>>> Santa Barbara, CA 93106
>>>> 805-893-2071 (voice)
>>>> http://sbc.lternet.edu
>>>>
>>>> On 1/7/16 9:03 AM, Kerstin A Lehnert via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
>>>>> I would like to join remotely if the session is at 11am.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kerstin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/7/16 11:53 AM, Anne Wilson via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ruth Duerr <ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:51 AM
>>>>>> To: Dan Keyes <dankeyes at esipfed.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Nancy Hoebelheinrich <nhoebel at kmotifs.com
>>>>>> <mailto:nhoebel at kmotifs.com>>, Anne Wilson
>>>>>> <Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu>>, "McCartney, Peter H."
>>>>>> <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov <mailto:PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>>, Margaret O'Brien
>>>>>> <margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu <mailto:margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu>>, Erin
>>>>>> Robinson <erinrobinson at esipfed.org
>>>>>> <mailto:erinrobinson at esipfed.org>>,
>>>>>> "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org
>>>>>> <mailto:esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org>"
>>>>>> <esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org
>>>>>> <mailto:esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan study
>>>>>> to develop ROI for data centers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love it if we could move our meeting to 11 am as there is a
>>>>>> semantics session that is meeting at lunch that I¹d like to attend
>>>>>> as well (i.e., fewer conflicts for me).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Dan Keyes <dankeyes at esipfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nancy we had a session cancellation on Friday at 11am. Another
>>>>>>> session starts in there at 2pm. Would you like to claim that
>>>>>>> space/time now? You don't have to start at 11; just be out before 2.
>>>>>>> Dan K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Nancy Hoebelheinrich
>>>>>>> <nhoebel at kmotifs.com <mailto:nhoebel at kmotifs.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi, all:
>>>>>>>   Seems that the 2:30 pm timeframe on Friday is not good for Ruth
>>>>>>>   whose flight
>>>>>>>   home leaves at 6 pm.  As an alternative, there appears to be an
>>>>>>>   opening at
>>>>>>>   lunchtime on Friday with boxed lunches available.  We could take
>>>>>>>   our lunches
>>>>>>>   and retire to a room that might have webex which would also
>>>>>>>   probably be
>>>>>>>   easier as the ESIP support folks were going to have difficulty
>>>>>>>   arranging a
>>>>>>>   webex at 2:30 pm anyway.  Will that work for folks?
>>>>>>>   Nancy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Nancy J. Hoebelheinrich
>>>>>>>   Information Analyst/Principal
>>>>>>>   nhoebel at kmotifs.com <mailto:nhoebel at kmotifs.com>
>>>>>>>   San Mateo, CA  94401
>>>>>>>   (v) 650-302-4493 <tel:650-302-4493>
>>>>>>>   (f) 650-745-3333 <tel:650-745-3333>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>   From: Anne Wilson [mailto:Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu]
>>>>>>>   Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:30 AM
>>>>>>>   To: McCartney, Peter H.
>>>>>>>   Cc: Nancy Hoebelheinrich; Ruth Duerr
>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan
>>>>>>>   study to develop
>>>>>>>   ROI for data centers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Glad to hear from you.  Latest word is that our ROI BOF is at
>>>>>>>   2:30 on
>>>>>>>   Friday, 1/8, not the 3:30 hour I mentioned before. (Nancy,
>>>>>>>   please correct
>>>>>>>   me if that's wrong.)   We'd love to see you there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Anne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On 12/29/15 9:40 AM, "McCartney, Peter H." <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   >Thanks. Just getting back from vacation and seeing this.
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >Peter
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >Peter McCartney (pmccartn at nsf.gov <mailto:pmccartn at nsf.gov>)
>>>>>>>   >Division of Biological Infrastructure
>>>>>>>   >National Science Foundation
>>>>>>>   >703 292 8470 <tel:703%20292%208470>
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>   >From: Anne Wilson [mailto:Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu]
>>>>>>>   >Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:31 PM
>>>>>>>   >To: McCartney, Peter H. <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>
>>>>>>>   >Subject: Re: Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan
>>>>>>>   study to
>>>>>>>   >develop ROI for data centers?
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >I just wanted to make sure you knew that our ESIP Sustainable
>>>>>>> Data
>>>>>>>   >Management cluster now exists and has an email list:
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>> http://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-sustainableDM
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >and a wiki:
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management.
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >Also, FYI, regarding the ROI topic, we seem to be converging on
>>>>>>>   a BOF
>>>>>>>   >at the ESIP meeting on Friday, 1/8, at 3:30, though I'm not
>>>>>>>   positive I have
>>>>>>>   >the latest word on that.   I will let you know if that
>>>>>>>   changes.  Please
>>>>>>>   >join us if you can, we would love to have your input.  It will
>>>>>>>   be at
>>>>>>>   >the Wardman Park Marriott:
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >http://commons.esipfed.org/2016WinterMeeting
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >Sincerely,
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >Anne
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >On 12/9/15 6:51 AM, "McCartney, Peter H." <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov
>>>>>>>   <mailto:PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>> wrote:
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >>HI anne
>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>   >>i'm in panel so a sort response...yes, im planning on
>>>>>>>   attending ESIP
>>>>>>>   >>and my main reason would be to continue my interaction with
>>>>>>>   yours (and
>>>>>>>   >>any other sub-taskforces) that are pursuing the goals set
>>>>>>> forth in
>>>>>>>   >>phoenix.
>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>   >>Peter
>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>   >>On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 22:11 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>   >>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> It was great to meet you in Phoenix at the workshop,
>>>>>>>   Collaborative
>>>>>>>   >>> Strategies for Sustained Environmental Data Management.
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> And thank you for joining our breakout on methods for
>>>>>>>   determining
>>>>>>>   >>> the ROI of data centers that Wednesday afternoon.  As you
>>>>>>>   know, we
>>>>>>>   >>> met further Thursday morning and identified some action
>>>>>>>   items.  We
>>>>>>>   >>> have already moved forward on forming an ESIP cluster
>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>   >>> topic and plan to gather at the Winter meeting in January to
>>>>>>>   discuss
>>>>>>>   >>> moving forward.
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> I'm now executing another action item - I'm write to you
>>>>>>> now to
>>>>>>>   >>> follow up with you to see if you had any thought or advice
>>>>>>>   on using
>>>>>>>   >>> an EAGER grant to plan the scope, methods, and coverage of a
>>>>>>>   project
>>>>>>>   >>> comparable to what JISC did
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>> (http://repository.jisc.ac.uk/5568/1/iDF308_-_Digital_Infrastructure
>>>>>>>   >>> _
>>>>>>>   >>> Direct
>>>>>>>   >>> ions_Report,_Jan14_v1-04.pdf).
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> In reading the EAGER description, it seems like this idea is
>>>>>>>   >>> appropriate
>>>>>>>   >>> - what do you think?  Or can you suggest some other
>>>>>>> mechanism to
>>>>>>>   >>> fund this planning stage?
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> Are you by chance interested and available to attend any of
>>>>>>>   the ESIP
>>>>>>>   >>> meeting?  The meeting is in DC, January 6 - 8.   Here's the
>>>>>>>   schedule:
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OpmDkDBIoIyiLC7w8J1hvu0Y8C6M
>>>>>>>   >>> I
>>>>>>>   >>> -WDPSa
>>>>>>>   >>> Cudsr4PY/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> In particular, if this 'ROI for data centers'  topic
>>>>>>>   interests you,
>>>>>>>   >>> we
>>>>>>>   >>> would be happy to have you join us when we gather.   Please
>>>>>>>   let me
>>>>>>>   >>> know if
>>>>>>>   >>> you're interested in joining us.
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> We appreciate hearing any thoughts or comments you might
>>>>>>>   have about
>>>>>>>   >>> moving this forward.
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> Thank you, Peter!
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>> Anne
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Director, Interdisciplinary Earth Data Alliance Director, EarthChem
>>>>> President, IGSN e.V.
>>>>>
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>>>>> Columbia University
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