[Esip-sustainabledm] Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan study to develop ROI for data centers?

Dave Vieglais vieglais at ku.edu
Fri Jan 8 11:23:54 EST 2016 

Google doc for notes:

http://bit.ly/2016Jan08_SustDM


On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:59, Dave Vieglais via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:

> Hi Anne,
> The information I have from Dan (email 16:49 yesterday):
>
> Room is MADISON B, time 11am.
>
> WebEx: Sustainable Data Management
> Friday, January 8, 2016|11:00 am, Eastern Standard Time (GMT-05:00)|3 
> hours
> Host:ESIP Host (SBA/Education)
> Audio connection:
> 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada)
> 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)
> 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)*
> Host access code: 231 363 47
> Attendee access code: 231 403 58
>
>
>
>
> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:26, Anne Wilson via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
>
>> I did a quick search but did not see where this meeting is scheduled.
>> Please resend?  Thank you!
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> On 1/7/16 6:35 PM, "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org"
>> <esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your note, Cyndy.  I would say that all are welcome, and 
>>> that
>>> the
>>> room is big enough that other discussions besides those related to 
>>> ROI
>>> could
>>> happen at the same time, if desired.   Do note, however, that the 
>>> ROI
>>> group
>>> will be discussing the feasibility of replicating the studies 
>>> related to
>>> "The Value and Impact of Data Sharing and Curation" studies done by
>>> organizations in the UK including Jisc and others.  If you're 
>>> interested
>>> in
>>> joining that part of the conversation and reviewing the background
>>> information, you can find the summary of the studies at the 
>>> following URL:
>>> http://repository.jisc.ac.uk/5568/1/iDF308_-_Digital_Infrastructure_Direct
>>> io
>>> ns_Report%2C_Jan14_v1-04.pdf .
>>>
>>> Dan Keyes has sent out the webex information previously, so I won't 
>>> repeat
>>> that.  Looking forward to the discussion tomorrow!
>>> Regards,
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Esip-sustainabledm
>>> [mailto:esip-sustainabledm-bounces at lists.esipfed.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Parr,
>>> Cynthia - ARS via Esip-sustainabledm
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:51 PM
>>> To: esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] Phoenix workshop outcome - using 
>>> EAGER
>>> to
>>> plan study to develop ROI for data centers?
>>>
>>> I should be in the Agriculture etc. session but I will try to split 
>>> my
>>> time.
>>>
>>> To clarify, some of us are assuming that any of the sustainable data
>>> management people will gather at this time and place, not just the 
>>> ROI
>>> group. We wouldn¹t want to hijack discussions but we want to stay 
>>> in the
>>> loop.
>>>
>>> On 1/7/16, 3:39 PM, "Esip-sustainabledm on behalf of Robert R. Downs 
>>> via
>>> Esip-sustainabledm" <esip-sustainabledm-bounces at lists.esipfed.org on
>>> behalf
>>> of esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will be presenting during the IQ session at the same time, but 
>>>> look
>>>> forward to hearing about the session later.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Robert R. Downs, PhD
>>>> Senior Digital Archivist and Senior Staff Associate Officer of 
>>>> Research
>>>> Center for International Earth Science Information Network 
>>>> (CIESIN),
>>>> The Earth Institute, Columbia University P.O. Box 1000, 61 Route 
>>>> 9W,
>>>> Palisades, NY 10964 USA
>>>> Voice: 845-365-8985; fax: 845-365-8922
>>>> E-mail: rdowns at ciesin.columbia.edu
>>>> Columbia University CIESIN Web site: http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu
>>>>
>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:06 PM, Margaret O'Brien via Esip-sustainabledm 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I will join remotely also; that time is fine.
>>>>> I was planning to listen in on the CDF session that morning, but
>>>>> would drop out of that for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------
>>>>> Margaret O'Brien
>>>>> Information Management
>>>>> Santa Barbara Coastal LTER
>>>>> Marine Science Institute, UCSB
>>>>> Santa Barbara, CA 93106
>>>>> 805-893-2071 (voice)
>>>>> http://sbc.lternet.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/7/16 9:03 AM, Kerstin A Lehnert via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to join remotely if the session is at 11am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerstin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/7/16 11:53 AM, Anne Wilson via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Ruth Duerr <ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:51 AM
>>>>>>> To: Dan Keyes <dankeyes at esipfed.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Nancy Hoebelheinrich <nhoebel at kmotifs.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:nhoebel at kmotifs.com>>, Anne Wilson
>>>>>>> <Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu>>, "McCartney, Peter H."
>>>>>>> <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov <mailto:PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>>, Margaret O'Brien
>>>>>>> <margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu <mailto:margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu>>, 
>>>>>>> Erin
>>>>>>> Robinson <erinrobinson at esipfed.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:erinrobinson at esipfed.org>>,
>>>>>>> "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org>"
>>>>>>> <esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan 
>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>> to develop ROI for data centers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love it if we could move our meeting to 11 am as there 
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> semantics session that is meeting at lunch that I¹d like to 
>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>> as well (i.e., fewer conflicts for me).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Dan Keyes <dankeyes at esipfed.org> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nancy we had a session cancellation on Friday at 11am. Another
>>>>>>>> session starts in there at 2pm. Would you like to claim that
>>>>>>>> space/time now? You don't have to start at 11; just be out 
>>>>>>>> before 2.
>>>>>>>> Dan K
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Nancy Hoebelheinrich
>>>>>>>> <nhoebel at kmotifs.com <mailto:nhoebel at kmotifs.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, all:
>>>>>>>> Seems that the 2:30 pm timeframe on Friday is not good for Ruth
>>>>>>>> whose flight
>>>>>>>> home leaves at 6 pm.  As an alternative, there appears to be an
>>>>>>>> opening at
>>>>>>>> lunchtime on Friday with boxed lunches available.  We could 
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> our lunches
>>>>>>>> and retire to a room that might have webex which would also
>>>>>>>> probably be
>>>>>>>> easier as the ESIP support folks were going to have difficulty
>>>>>>>> arranging a
>>>>>>>> webex at 2:30 pm anyway.  Will that work for folks?
>>>>>>>> Nancy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nancy J. Hoebelheinrich
>>>>>>>> Information Analyst/Principal
>>>>>>>> nhoebel at kmotifs.com <mailto:nhoebel at kmotifs.com>
>>>>>>>> San Mateo, CA  94401
>>>>>>>> (v) 650-302-4493 <tel:650-302-4493>
>>>>>>>> (f) 650-745-3333 <tel:650-745-3333>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Anne Wilson [mailto:Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:30 AM
>>>>>>>> To: McCartney, Peter H.
>>>>>>>> Cc: Nancy Hoebelheinrich; Ruth Duerr
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan
>>>>>>>> study to develop
>>>>>>>> ROI for data centers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glad to hear from you.  Latest word is that our ROI BOF is at
>>>>>>>> 2:30 on
>>>>>>>> Friday, 1/8, not the 3:30 hour I mentioned before. (Nancy,
>>>>>>>> please correct
>>>>>>>> me if that's wrong.)   We'd love to see you there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/29/15 9:40 AM, "McCartney, Peter H." <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >Thanks. Just getting back from vacation and seeing this.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Peter
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Peter McCartney (pmccartn at nsf.gov <mailto:pmccartn at nsf.gov>)
>>>>>>>> >Division of Biological Infrastructure
>>>>>>>> >National Science Foundation
>>>>>>>> >703 292 8470 <tel:703%20292%208470>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> >From: Anne Wilson [mailto:Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu]
>>>>>>>> >Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:31 PM
>>>>>>>> >To: McCartney, Peter H. <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>
>>>>>>>> >Subject: Re: Phoenix workshop outcome - using EAGER to plan
>>>>>>>> study to
>>>>>>>> >develop ROI for data centers?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >I just wanted to make sure you knew that our ESIP Sustainable
>>>>>>>> Data
>>>>>>>> >Management cluster now exists and has an email list:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.esipfed.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-sustainableDM
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >and a wiki:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Also, FYI, regarding the ROI topic, we seem to be converging 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> a BOF
>>>>>>>> >at the ESIP meeting on Friday, 1/8, at 3:30, though I'm not
>>>>>>>> positive I have
>>>>>>>> >the latest word on that.   I will let you know if that
>>>>>>>> changes.  Please
>>>>>>>> >join us if you can, we would love to have your input.  It will
>>>>>>>> be at
>>>>>>>> >the Wardman Park Marriott:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >http://commons.esipfed.org/2016WinterMeeting
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Anne
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >On 12/9/15 6:51 AM, "McCartney, Peter H." <PMCCARTN at nsf.gov
>>>>>>>> <mailto:PMCCARTN at nsf.gov>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>HI anne
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>i'm in panel so a sort response...yes, im planning on
>>>>>>>> attending ESIP
>>>>>>>> >>and my main reason would be to continue my interaction with
>>>>>>>> yours (and
>>>>>>>> >>any other sub-taskforces) that are pursuing the goals set
>>>>>>>> forth in
>>>>>>>> >>phoenix.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>Peter
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 22:11 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> It was great to meet you in Phoenix at the workshop,
>>>>>>>> Collaborative
>>>>>>>> >>> Strategies for Sustained Environmental Data Management.
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> And thank you for joining our breakout on methods for
>>>>>>>> determining
>>>>>>>> >>> the ROI of data centers that Wednesday afternoon.  As you
>>>>>>>> know, we
>>>>>>>> >>> met further Thursday morning and identified some action
>>>>>>>> items.  We
>>>>>>>> >>> have already moved forward on forming an ESIP cluster
>>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>> >>> topic and plan to gather at the Winter meeting in January 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>> >>> moving forward.
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> I'm now executing another action item - I'm write to you
>>>>>>>> now to
>>>>>>>> >>> follow up with you to see if you had any thought or advice
>>>>>>>> on using
>>>>>>>> >>> an EAGER grant to plan the scope, methods, and coverage of 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> >>> comparable to what JISC did
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> (http://repository.jisc.ac.uk/5568/1/iDF308_-_Digital_Infrastructure
>>>>>>>> >>> _
>>>>>>>> >>> Direct
>>>>>>>> >>> ions_Report,_Jan14_v1-04.pdf).
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> In reading the EAGER description, it seems like this idea 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> >>> appropriate
>>>>>>>> >>> - what do you think?  Or can you suggest some other
>>>>>>>> mechanism to
>>>>>>>> >>> fund this planning stage?
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Are you by chance interested and available to attend any of
>>>>>>>> the ESIP
>>>>>>>> >>> meeting?  The meeting is in DC, January 6 - 8.   Here's the
>>>>>>>> schedule:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OpmDkDBIoIyiLC7w8J1hvu0Y8C6M
>>>>>>>> >>> I
>>>>>>>> >>> -WDPSa
>>>>>>>> >>> Cudsr4PY/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> In particular, if this 'ROI for data centers'  topic
>>>>>>>> interests you,
>>>>>>>> >>> we
>>>>>>>> >>> would be happy to have you join us when we gather.   Please
>>>>>>>> let me
>>>>>>>> >>> know if
>>>>>>>> >>> you're interested in joining us.
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> We appreciate hearing any thoughts or comments you might
>>>>>>>> have about
>>>>>>>> >>> moving this forward.
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Thank you, Peter!
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Anne
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Kerstin Lehnert
>>>>>> Director, Interdisciplinary Earth Data Alliance Director, 
>>>>>> EarthChem
>>>>>> President, IGSN e.V.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
>>>>>> Columbia University
>>>>>> Palisades, NY, 10964
>>>>>> (845) 365-8506
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